Standby power consumption of an induction hob?

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by izentrop » 30/03/15, 15:46

What is unfortunate is that the record of these devices consom-meter or energy meter does not tell you that most of the measurements will be wrong.
Mine says cos PHI.
In fact it is about valid for inductive loads, but not for capacitive loads.
For example low-power devices like led or programmer that use a capacitor in current limiter http://www.sonelec-musique.com/electron ... _leds.html
The measurement indicates a power well above the actual value.
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by elephant » 30/03/15, 15:46

I am horrified by the numbers you publish.

1) when you are sure nothing is plugged in, your EDF counter should indicate 0,000 KW / h consos. Point. (unless it is an electronic meter that has its own consumption: you can measure it by lowering all your circuit breakers)
But we must not forget anything: alarm clock, video TV installation, (including the possible decoder), ADSL decoder, cordless telephones, heating circulator, thermostat if it is electronic, central alarm, doorbell transformer, fridges, coffee machine, antenna amplifier in the attic and even the lamps indicating the electrical installation. Everything from everything, what.

2) If your plate does not have a plug / socket, you must lower all your fuses / circuit breakers and keep only one active circuit.

3) if with nothing connected anything and you have a conso greater or equal, 4 or 5 W / h must seriously track down fault currents, circuit by circuit. It's because you have a leak to the earth somewhere.


Only 5 Watts consumption default, after one year, it is 5 euros! As a reminder, a year is 8760 hours.
and 100 Wh is 876 KWh / year, 100 euros / year, it is unacceptable and it would surprise me that the people at Whirlpool have allowed.

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by cacahuet » 30/03/15, 17:04

elephant wrote:I am horrified by the numbers you publish.

As a reminder, a year is 8760 hours.
and 100 Wh is 876 KWh / year, 100 euros / year, it is unacceptable and it would surprise me that the people at Whirlpool have allowed.



When I measured, I hadn't cut anything at the circuit breaker except the plate! So the 270W is my consumption "at rest" with the circuit breakers mounted and the devices connected.

But I will still test by lowering all the circuit breakers, and keep lit only the plate to see.

On my device, it's already written in W! Which is not normal!
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by elephant » 30/03/15, 19:50

It is a gap in everyday language and it is not the essence of the problem.
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by izentrop » 30/03/15, 23:03

You're not the only one with these problems. http://www.bricozone.be/fr/electricite/ ... 48995.html

You can trust the EDF meter. If you have a multimeter, measure the current of the plate, you will have the heart net.
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by elephant » 31/03/15, 10:06

Bricozone extract:

but I have a friend who is a cook, who really cared about me when I told him that I had bought an induction hob .... He laughed because he told me that it was consumed a lot of power off


Either it is false, or it is worrying (and to denounce at the level of "ministries", European communities, etc ...)

Nobody has a plate and a small conso counter taken?
Apart from the power of the timer, if there is one, nothing justifies this consumption.
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by elephant » 31/03/15, 12:14

Relevant remarks:

http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/Discussion ... 1313_1.htm

http://maison.siegele.com/2008/02/27/le ... nt-page-1/

Frankly, a switch would be profitable: at first glance it is automatic ignition pan detection that consume 12 25 euros / year
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by izentrop » 31/03/15, 13:10

Manufacturers are aiming (and having) to reduce standby consumption to less than 1W, which seems to be the case today according to the latest tests conducted by Que Choisir. Indeed, all induction tables tested in recent years are below this ceiling.
http://forum.quechoisir.org/pas-de-sujet-t2967.html

Rely on your EDF meter rather than the energy meter and do not stop at the words of a cook;)
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by elephant » 31/03/15, 15:00

Need to say: of course priority to the sophisticated, expensive and licensed object that serves as the official basis for billing rather than cheap Chinese gadgets.

OKAY.

That said, new question: an electromechanical disc type Ferraris disc does not consume when there is no consumption (yes, in theory, it takes a tiny energy, but only when it debits), but what about the consumption of an electronic counter? It's still a connected electronics 24h / 24.
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by izentrop » 31/03/15, 16:48

elephant wrote:but what about the consumption of an electronic meter? It's still a connected electronics 24h / 24.
Same standard as for other devices <1 w and 15 VA capacitive for this one http://www.cartelectronic.fr/documentat ... _C1000.pdf and 1Wh measured by pulse (flash of the led).

Measure a consumption of 0.5 W, you have to be patient ... a pulse every 2 hours. :|

The peanut counter may indicate a false measure of instantaneous power, but the active energy in Wh, which is its main function.

I asked the question for this type of energy meter http://www.cartelectronic.fr/electricit ... laire.html
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