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Unread Messageby Christophe » 30/10/17, 14:29

And here are the critics of the French Academy ... What bigre is A FEMININE institution !! How do you say Academy masculine? Academic? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

http://www.academie-francaise.fr/actual ... -inclusive

Declaration of the French Academy on the so-called "inclusive" writing

The 26 October 2017

Declaration of the French Academy


DECLARATION of the FRENCH ACADEMY
on the WRITING called "INCLUSIVE"
unanimously adopted by its members
in the session of Thursday 26 October 2017


Taking note of the diffusion of an "inclusive writing" which claims to impose itself as a norm, the French Academy raises unanimously a solemn warning. The multiplication of the orthographic and syntactic marks that it induces leads to a disunited language, disparate in its expression, creating a confusion which borders on illegibility. It is unclear what the goal is and how it could overcome the practical barriers of writing, reading - visual or aloud - and pronunciation. This would weigh on the task of the pedagogues. This would further complicate that of readers.

More than any other institution, the French Academy is sensitive to developments and innovations in the language, since its mission is to codify them. On this occasion, it is less a guardian of the norm than a guarantor of the future that it raises a cry of alarm: in front of this "inclusive" aberration, the French language is now in deadly danger, which our nation is now accountable to future generations.

It is already difficult to acquire a language, what will happen if the use adds to it second and altered forms? How will future generations grow in intimacy with our written heritage? As for the promises of the Francophonie, they will be destroyed if the French language prevents itself by this duplication of complexity, for the benefit of other languages ​​that will take advantage to prevail on the planet.
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 30/10/17, 22:34

A language that is not spoken is not one, as well as this nice article ... finally more convincing than the text of the Academy: http://blogs.lexpress.fr/le-choix-des-m ... eologique/

Case closed ... trash!
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Re: The sexist campaign of AdopteUnMec! Feminization of our Society?

Unread Messageby Remundo » 31/10/17, 08:50

Christophe wrote:Here I learned 2 words thank you: autrice, painter : Cheesy:

Uh today we say rather "author" no?

perso, I prefer author to autrice. And in the Middle Ages, it was said philosophess, but some found it was a little cucu. : Mrgreen:
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 31/10/17, 17:01

Philosoph.f.esse Cu.l.cu.l you mean rather?

Here is the first sentence that I understand better in inclusive than in normal language! Mouhahahah, thank you Remundo I had a good laugh! mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 31/10/17, 19:20

Here is the kind of argument of feministSS pro inclusive writing ...big no matter what!

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Re: Inclusive writing: they want to kill the langu.age.e French.e

Unread Messageby Ahmed » 31/10/17, 20:12

It is a bad trial for the French language to accuse him of misogyny or, conversely, to think that it is enough to spread the inclusivity to fix everything. The language only reflects the prejudices of its speakers; Of course, I understand the argument: the language imbued with sexism becomes an agent that transmits the message insidiously and tends to perpetuate it. However, by confusing the consequence and the cause, we condemn ourselves to superficial and inefficient measures.
On the merits, what is disturbing in categorical social criticism is that, by undermining discrimination, it obscures what is profoundly common and which can in no way be reduced to the sum of the parts. It is not by giving corporative advantages to this or that category that it will be possible to make society more satisfying: on the contrary, this division only confirms what constitutes the essence of the problem. The treatment of women is only a variant of socially constructed inequalities.

There is a structural ambiguity peculiar to capitalism: on the one hand, the need to suppress all particularism so that all are delivered from the old constraints (sexism, racism, homophobia, xenophobia ...) in order to be more perfectly subject to that. on the other hand, to maintain them or to create others in order to prosper inequalities which are opportunities for those who encourage them to maximize their profit.
To sum up, let us say that theory makes the ideological presupposition of a total egalitarianism at the starting point, but that the dominant agents can not do without contradicting it as soon as they proclaim it ...
On the question of women, it is clear that they internalize two constraints: first, to fulfill its role of groom and domestic service to the male (so that the latter can fully indulge in his own, which is to be a work or combat force) then, become together a producer, like the male ...
The oscillation between these two poles is particularly uncomfortable ...
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Re: Inclusive writing: they want to kill the langu.age.e French.e

Unread Messageby Remundo » 01/11/17, 14:48

Christophe wrote:And another example that shows the debility of (the generalization of) the idea:

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and still it does not go, the fountain is a feminine name, which can discriminate women (fountains!).

We must also change the name of the author, Jean.ne of the tap in neutral pH fountain, so as to perfect equality (arism) between all genres (and even degenerates, no discrimination!). : Mrgreen:
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Unread Messageby Ahmed » 01/11/17, 18:44

It is necessary to distinguish carefully between the general equality (which remains to be defined), categorical and individual.
The categorical claim is not really aimed at equality, but only at equality of opportunity for individuals belonging to the discriminated category to establish an inequality that would be favorable to them. Thus, for women or blacks, to access levels of domination usually reserved for men or whites ... There are already representatives of these categories who have managed to "win" among their male colleagues or some suburbs who are shown as examples, as if their "success" to exclude others could be a desirable and generalizable model!
Thus, far from seeking a global emancipation that would first assume a consciousness of general alienation, the reality of these struggles condemned to immanence leads them only to the homogenization of the framework of domination.

These claims are expressed inside of a system of domination and the latter is not called into question, only its methods of application.
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Re: Inclusive writing: they want to kill the langu.age.e French.e

Unread Messageby dirk pitt » 06/11/17, 16:16

this is UN mannequin

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this is A star

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from the article cited above-

it reminds me of a Magdane sketch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTiYkHufzrQ
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Re: The sexist campaign of AdopteUnMec! Feminization of our Society?

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