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Unread Messageby izentrop » 06/12/17, 08:45

Ethics is based on a moral, the opposite of science. This has plunged the world into ignorance and the omnipotence of religious from Greek civilization to rebirth.
The industrial era has brought us "comfort" and all the knowledge we have today, but also pollution and global warming, due to the greed of men.

Advances in technology can help us solve this dilemma.
So much the better if ethics can no longer slow down this development. The problem is the rise of nationalisms and the withdrawal into either which is likely to plunge us back under the thumb of despots and thus deprive us of an intelligent resolution.
With a Trump playing with fire, we take the path.
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Unread Messageby sen-no-sen » 06/12/17, 11:28

izentrop wrote:Ethics is based on a moral, the opposite of science.


Yes, but science is based on the study of nature and the latter is based on physical laws. This leads us to understand the universe as a living whole, which is where the principle of ecology resides.
Thus beyond the notions of good and bad, sometimes too subjective, it is in terms of balance / imbalance that we must reason.
Moreover, we must not forget that science is made by humans ...

The industrial era has brought us "comfort" and all the knowledge we have today, but also pollution and global warming, due to the greed of men.


Pollution and global warming have little to do with the greed of men, it is a confusing banality!
This is only the logical result of industrial development and the process of transformation of the world.
Industrial evolution must necessarily involve the use of fossil energy and induce the current consequences in view of the dominant ideology.
If the disastrous consequences of his choices were accepted it is not out of greed but simply because it was the most dissipative model in energy of the moment, the greed is the consequence and not the cause of this disastrous issue .

Advances in technology can help us solve this dilemma.


This is unfortunately a very good reasoning bias.
Technology and intelligence are not meant to solve problems but to create them!
One does not increase one's muscular mass or one's synaptic connections while remaining apathetic, but by constantly increasing the efforts (constraints would be still more just).
Technological development is based on the principle of outsourcing, that is to say that any local advance is reflected in an increase in global disorder and is that we call naively "pollution"! : Lol:
To believe that more technology will solve more problems is to understand nothing about the concept of technology.

The problem is the rise of nationalisms and the withdrawal into either which is likely to plunge us back under the thumb of despots and thus deprive us of an intelligent resolution.


And it could well be that one of his despots uses his technical means against humanity, we live in full technological feudalism.
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Unread Messageby izentrop » 06/12/17, 14:07

"Greed" may not be the right word, but bringing everything back to thermodynamics is not necessarily the best way either. On Earth, the sun still has at least 4 billion years to provide the energy that lives on.

The damage to the environment began as soon as the man knew how to control it for his benefit ... in the Neolithic.
And nuance, it became a problem for the planet only from the industrial age. So we just have to identify them and reduce those that are harmful and damage the balance of ecosystems.

The scientific consensus is that the exponential rise of global warming must be curbed quickly, the main element of which is the CO2 level in the atmosphere, even if its proportion is very low.
Some understood the way forward http://www.slate.fr/story/100895/chine- ... climatique.
At home we favor wood / energy : Shock: : Cry:

We must therefore promote remedies that go in the right direction rather than looking for leaders. If CRISPR can help change the living so that it solves these problems for us, let's go cheerfully. : Wink:
Why not a modified cyanobacterium to produce easily storable lignin.
To stop the overfishing, cultivate algae genetically modified to make them non-toxic and appetizing.
Full of opportunities to do what the zumains do not want to do.

Nothing to do, but people no longer want to be vaccinated, change the genome of mosquitoes so they do it for us :)
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Unread Messageby sen-no-sen » 06/12/17, 16:49

The issue of RCA may actually find a solution with CRISPR 9 case but may not be the way you want it .... : roll:
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Unread Messageby izentrop » 15/07/18, 00:33

The week of 2 July 2018, two drugs have obtained a favorable opinion for a marketing authorization European, Kymriah and Yescarta. Both show impressive results in the field of leukemia (blood cancers). Administered in young patients, for whom a first treatment had no effect, Kymriah allowed 83% of patients to go into remission, even with a single dose. "It's a revolution. Before, we tried to correct the defective genes by injecting a normal gene. But the defective part was still there and the DNA introduced into the body would integrate anywhere, which had even caused cancer. CRISPR allows to introduce this gene in a safe place, "says Carine Giovannangeli

Today, hundreds of laboratories use this tool. It has democratized to the point that for a few hundred dollars, it is possible to get a kit on the internet and engage in bio hacking experiments in his kitchen. "Can this be dangerous? Yes. Since the tool is easy to use and accessible to all, this means that you can edit the genome as you want and use it inappropriately, like eugenics. But I do not think that the threat really goes through biohackers who conduct experiments in their garage, "says Anne Galy.

MONSANTO, GMO SPECIALIST BECAME A SUBSIDIARY OF THE BAYER GROUP, REACHED THE RIGHTS OF CRISPR-CAS9 IN 2016

In agribusiness too, large groups do not hesitate to develop genetically modified foods. Monsanto, the GM specialist who became a subsidiary of the Bayer Group, has acquired 9's CRISPR-Cas2016 rights from the Broad Institute in Cambridge, United States. The operation alerted a part of the scientific community, which fears that the tool leads to excesses.

As a precautionary measure, the Broad Institute has issued three restrictions on the use of CRISPR-Cas9 in the contract with Monsanto. Prohibition to carry out "gene drive", a technique that can amplify a gene and that could disrupt the ecosystem. Not the right to make seeds sterile, which risks putting farmers under the yoke of the giant seed companies. And finally, not the right to touch tobacco to make it more addictive.
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