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Unread Messageby Christophe » 16/11/11, 22:22

Here is a complete file on the brain functioning (well all we know, that is not much ...), the conscience, the NBIC (Neurosciences, Biotechnology, Computers and Cognition) technology, drugs...

Folder entitled "The brain, technological object"8 in many parts complete (shown links to go further). Each part can be read independently of the others.

Part 1, Hacker brain and presentation of NBIC
http://internetactu.blog.lemonde.fr/201 ... e-cerveau/

Part 2, the world's most non-computer complex
http://internetactu.blog.lemonde.fr/201 ... -du-monde/

Part 3, Two brains for a decision
http://internetactu.blog.lemonde.fr/201 ... -decision/

4 part, new ways of talking and thinking ...
http://internetactu.blog.lemonde.fr/201 ... de-penser/

Part 5, Must exercise his mind to be?
http://internetactu.blog.lemonde.fr/201 ... -en-avoir/

Part 6, Drugs, waves and lights ...
http://internetactu.blog.lemonde.fr/201 ... -lumieres/

7 part, and God in all this?
http://internetactu.blog.lemonde.fr/201 ... s-tout-ca/

8 part, the political brain
http://internetactu.blog.lemonde.fr/201 ... u-cerveau/

Folder found under this topic https://www.econologie.com/forums/phenomenes ... 10863.html

Ps: see also other subjects talking brain https://www.econologie.com/forums/cerveau-ho ... 10683.html et https://www.econologie.com/forums/internet-n ... 10992.html
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Unread Messageby dedeleco » 16/11/11, 23:00

Well before the conscience, it would decipher the codes of communication between two neurons unhappy and what they are saying, which is totally impossible now !!
A bit 256 secret bank code is easier to read !!
What do the electrical pulses, their frequency, their time, their cadence, etc .. we almost understand anything, much less how to realize complex processing in the brain, images, sounds, etc .. and so awareness is to the next millennium ??
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Unread Messageby elephant » 17/11/11, 00:01

Fully agree.

A small paradox of memory.

A list is stored more easily when objects are associated with other objects.

In other words, when it takes more "memory space"
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 17/11/11, 11:10

Good example elephant and it's the same thing with memories to remember to bring a can to remember others, more or less directly related ... Also people all have different memories of the same Remember lived together!

Personally I have long thought that the brain records everything ... that is our whole life ...

After that is the "spirit" to pick "in the right boxes" or rather with the right key information ... for example the emotional memory is a powerful key! It happens to remember better when a memory was the thrill of living ... The routine is what kills most ability to retrieve memories.

Dreams are also a mystery of the brain and memory! Some will never remember, others systematically ... I am rather in the category 2ieme.

And for example. I happen to an "unknown" reason, to remind me of one of my dream, like that during the day, years later, when I had forgotten a few minutes after waking!

I'm not talking about recurring dream (I've never to my knowledge) ... which are much easier to remember recess.


dedeleco wrote:Well before the conscience, it would decipher the codes of communication between two neurons unhappy and what they are saying, which is totally impossible now !!
A bit 256 secret bank code is easier to read !!
What do the electrical pulses, their frequency, their time, their cadence, etc .. we almost understand anything, much less how to realize complex processing in the brain, images, sounds, etc .. and so awareness is to the next millennium ??


The conclusion of 1er feature article in this direction is not it?

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But the attitude of this type of hackers faces increasingly difficult challenges. We saw it with the bio, it is not possible to regard DNA as a simple computer program: too complicated, too unexpected. Similarly, the brain is not a computer in the traditional sense, although it created computers hoping to emulate the brain. It is therefore necessary to our hypothetical cognhacker acquire some basic principles that will serve him in his investigation, and above all, to know where the reflexes he has acquired in his practice of IT risk damaging his understanding. It it is not necessary to acquire a comprehensive knowledge of the subject, but at least to understand some fundamental concepts that we'll explore in the following pages of this file.


Well I'll spliter because this issue is really interesting!
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Unread Messageby sen-no-sen » 17/11/11, 11:55

Another weird thing: the action may precede consciousness.
Experiments demonstrated the brain that is preparing the action several milliseconds before the subject is aware of the will!
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 17/11/11, 11:57

Yes I heard about it! If you have references of experiences?

In online gaming, ca ca is also called the server lag : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

ps: about splite and 1er completed message ...
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Unread Messageby sen-no-sen » 17/11/11, 12:05

Christophe wrote:Yes I heard about it! If you have references of experiences?



https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... uStxHY.pdf

A very interesting doc Angela Sirigu and Gille Laffargue of cognitive neuroscience Bron center.
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 17/11/11, 12:13

Thank you, I will study this!

That is from Brain & Psycho same magazine that originally this topic: https://www.econologie.com/forums/cerveau-ho ... 10683.html
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 17/11/11, 12:21

Christophe wrote:Personally I have long thought that the brain records everything ... that is our whole life ...

After that is the "spirit" to pick "in the right boxes" or rather with the right key information ... for example the emotional memory is a powerful key! It happens to remember better when a memory was the thrill of living ... The routine is what kills most ability to retrieve memories.

Dreams are also a mystery of the brain and memory! Some will never remember, others systematically ... I am rather in the category 2ieme.

And for example. I happen to an "unknown" reason, to remind me of one of my dream, like that during the day, years later, when I had forgotten a few minutes after waking!

I'm not talking about recurring dream (I've never to my knowledge) ... which are much easier to remember recess


Alleging 2ieme part about memory file: http://internetactu.blog.lemonde.fr/201 ... -du-monde/

For Jonah Lehrer, a journalist for Seed Magazine and author of Proust Was a brilliant neuroscientist, this kind of experience confirms the intuition of Proust who considered memory not as a warehouse static information but as a constant reactivation and re-creation of the experience. As he explains, "this shows us that whenever we remember anything, the neuronal structure of the memory is delicately transformed into a process called reconsolidation (Freud called this Nachträglichkeit or "feedback" process). The memory is impaired in the absence of the original stimulus, it is less and less concerned with what you remember and more for yourself. "


And a note on the same page on DD ???

Small note:

A hard drive works well as memory if the information is not copied to another location regularly, they are indeed lost forever.
Numeric data does have this limitation because of the lifetime of the media: the data is "unalterable" only because it is copied to a new location.

So the memory behaves much like digital data from a computer.


Apparently this is wrong ...

The magnetic information of a hard disk are not moved as you say. This process is more at work in random access memory, or RAM, the information is refreshed X times per second.


Read the many reactions of the page, some are very informative ...
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Unread Messageby the middle » 17/11/11, 18:46

Personally I have long thought that the brain records everything ... that is our whole life ..

I think aussi..Et it bothers me ... it will be used for what? to judge me later : Cheesy:
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