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Engines or processes over unity, debate and ideas ?Johnson magnetic motor

Myth or reality? The question remains! You decide on this part of the forum, processes such as Tesla's inventions, Newman, Perendev, Galey, Bearden, cold fusion ...

Search of perpetual motion is a "fantasy" of the human mind for centuries ...
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Unread Messageby Remundo » 17/05/09, 20:23

In any case, the power collected seems very low ...

Tonight, I'm in a bit of science fiction ...

One could imagine the magnets at room temperature ... which set in motion would be able to drop of magnetic energy, which would become mechanics by dipolar interaction.

In doing so, the magnet would cool ... But the system would be maintained by the heat of the room ...

That's your reasoning Jam?

The problem is that it is a motor monothermal thermodynamically impossible.

I think simply that much of the magnetic interaction energy between the magnets frees himself in his system by demagnetization.

Imagine something like mechanical springs that détendraient, or air pistons tablets. The potential energy becomes kinetic constant total energy losses near (hysteresis, macro / microscopic friction)

But I guess, speculate, guess, imagine ... 8)
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Unread Messageby gegyx » 17/05/09, 21:26

Rhoo! Padawan, You've still upset, and he wiped his tutorials, work twenty days. Or rather nights, as gentleman trucker Chicago.
Sterling offered him all sorts of things. Even get paid for doing experiments rather than truck. Nay!
Monsieur is a top-flight artists, he puts the glue on the magnet, concentrates and raises the magnet on the place of the support, it checks, and again block after block. It is live with the spirit of Johnson (Shilow legend).
This pleased him well to market toys. As artists, it is temperamental.
But he is an artist in his genre. And geniuses are often recognized after their death ..

Padawan, You already had the ferrite and alnico magnets, in your pharmacy?
Have you followed all his videos, and if you understand English, you learn the more than me on his way to proceed and his certainties.
But as scientific training, you do have perhaps not well understood?

Remundo / Can not be Auvergne?
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Unread Messageby jam » 17/05/09, 21:36

We must not denigrate too Mylow. It seems that he is autistic, hence its difficulty functioning normally. The video with his twin brother was a jewelry :P
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Unread Messageby elephant » 17/05/09, 22:00

Remundo wrote (and thank him, a day without learning is a day lost)

He speaks thermal cooling effect especially ... it reminds me of the magnetocaloric effect discovered by Warburg 1881


I must say that this is not a common and widespread notion. So the question is:

a self-maintained system that lowers the temperature is really self entrenu: the risk of using it on an industrial scale would cause a refoidissement warming.
Time will tell .
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Unread Messageby Remundo » 17/05/09, 23:34

In physics, the "work" within the meaning energy available in an ordered form requires the existence of 2 sources, one high and one low, with a "Flow something" between 2 sources ...

1 example: waterfall
Upper Basin H / low basin water flow:
mechanical work = mass x gravity x rate x time deltaH
in potential energy: mass x gravity x H

2 example: electricity
high Potential V (+) / low potential (-), flow of charges
Electrical work: loads x rate x time deltaV
Potential energy in: charging potential V x

Example 3: engine
hot spring T / cold source: heat flow
mechanical work: thermal delta T x rate x time
Potential energy in: heat capacity x T

4 example: magnetism
considering imposing a magnetic source bext and a permanent magnet magnetization M

the demagnetized source would be "the atmosphere": work: flow of M x deltaB x time

Continuing the analogy:

Bext source magnetic / non magnetic source
magnetization flow from the source to the mgt amgtique source
mechanical work: Flow M x x time DeltaB
Potential energy in: Snapping x B

Which brings me to this reasoning is the observation of the machine where the magnets pass periodically in front of a fixed magnet "outer"

The problem is that the beautiful mechanical stops when the delta between sources vanishes ...

I think that magnetic motors presented in good faith are slowly demagnetization that give the illusion that they provide energy for free.

It is also possible that the moving permanent magnets are affected and demagnetize (just like in the other examples, the mass or charge decreased as it flows)

We let them turn and power a lamp for several days with measurement of voltage / amperage ... : Idea:

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Unread Messageby elephant » 18/05/09, 07:59

Remundo said:

We let them turn and power a lamp for several days with measurement of voltage / amperage ..


I do not think that's possible, given the very low powers, but measure the strength of a magnet should not be very difficult. Could also be integrated in mounting an inductor connected to air on a high impedance measuring unit to not hinder the movement.
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Unread Messageby Remundo » 18/05/09, 10:12

Even little paper ch'tite bulb 1W? : Cheesy:
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Unread Messageby chrisleblay » 19/05/09, 12:58

In this video we see the man: Mylow.
A look of genius above normal no doubt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIKbleBN1f0

Remundo thermodynamic reasoning has thermal base therefore the base is the source of the reasoning not apply a magnetic force.

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Unread Messageby gegyx » 19/05/09, 13:57

It's good to keep the chain link favorites, because it has quite preserved.

Saga Mylow (end?) :D
Going good, having lost it, erased his videos, the v'la made in consultation, because he lost 10 kg ...
A phenomenon that guy: he has found a way to lose weight in the States! He'll make a fortune.
Or MIB made him taste of polonium ...
Between the cat leptospirosis, psittacosis and the cockatoo, he was sentenced ...
In his last months he said 6 take vacation.
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Still, that following an image processing, video spins, with strong suspicion of fraud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw-8YJvicrw
I n''ai not the time to check with previously recorded video. But doubt is strong.
It seems that it would be to give pledges to the MIB ...
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Unread Messageby Remundo » 19/05/09, 15:04

Hi Gegyx,

And well ... both Mylow the other film "denial" [very well mounted moreover] ... they are people who have time to spare :D

Thanks Guys for the show !! 8)
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