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Homologation d'un moteur à eau

Unread Messageby yahi » 02/09/05, 00:38

Christophe, you noted:
1) Un moteur thermique classique ( à allumage commandé ) est capable de brûler de l'hydogène pur moyennant quelques modifications pour une meilleure efficacité et fiabilité ( matériaux de la chambre, des sièges et soupapes, du piston, adaptation de l'allumage, etc...). La principale difficulté résidant dans le stockage de l'Hydrogène ( gaz 27 fois plus léger que l'air et tellement petit qu'il diffuse dans la plupart des matériaux )Ce type de moteur pourrait évidement s'appeler Moteur à Hydrogène.

to the page https://www.econologie.com/le-moteur-a-h ... es-90.html

but Andrew says:
"Do not panic with the rust, it's a little shake that I walk with water, the engine has never been so clean, the candles are like new, all white, an injection of water into a little engine rust, but steam, it is heated the quince in the engine.
rust is especially evident on engines that run very little in the cold.
Do not forget that all engines when it swallows 200 has 300 cubic meters of air with a relative humidity of 40% it's a few liters of water, it's not for nothing that when it -25C or - 30C here That the holes of men on the road spit a column of steam, you leave a good space with the vehicle in front of you, you have the impression to roll in a cloud or to follow a car with vapor, I suppose in summer it's the same, but we do not see this steam.

So according to you, that they must be the modifications to affect to adapt a gasoline engine, to the combustion of the hydrogen?
and for a diesel engine, is it not possible to do something?

for lubrication, there are lubricants for gas in the tires (even at castorama), there is a gas kit to fit on classic engines: http://www.gaz-l.com/site/k_avantage.html

thank you for telling me what to change and how ??

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Unread Messageby Rabbit » 02/09/05, 00:49

I do not know where I'm going to arrive on this site
can you find there a source of energy for
feed the electrolysis of water.

<a href='http://www.surrealiste.org/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=19' target='_blank'> http://www.surrealiste.org/modules/newbb/v .. .um.php? forum = 19 </a>

The technique seems very promising. In our case, the heat source
exhaust gases, and cooling could be done by air or
through a radiator sup.

I think the subject deserves reflection.
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Unread Messageby gegyx » 02/09/05, 02:04

Rabbit wrote:I do not know where I'm going to arrive on this site
can you find there a source of energy for
feed the electrolysis of water.

<a href='http://www.surrealiste.org/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=19' target='_blank'> http://www.surrealiste.org/modules/newbb/v .. .um.php? forum = 19 </a>



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Unread Messageby Rabbit » 02/09/05, 08:42

Thank you gegyx, to refresh my memory.

Sometimes I get blanks after a certain time.
It must be age. : Blink:
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Unread Messageby pinkfloyd30 » 02/09/05, 11:08

HOW ARE PATENTS ON THE TRAVEL IN TIME !!!! super, me who dreamed of seeing Woodstock, no but other than that, had not already had a post on the water engine with a simple electrolysis ??? Frankly, what is missing from this process ??? ok for electrolysis it would take much of the energy of the engine so it would not be profitable ??? no ? in the test of the bingofuel on the generator we can see that the fleet does not last long even if the trick turns on high speed.
But it could not work the mix of electrolysis + the pantone reactor ???
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 02/09/05, 12:48

It lacks that the best current electrolyses have a yield of 30% ... it takes 1 joule electric to get 0.3 joule hydrogen (so thermal). Since the yield of the best process this thermal-mechanical conversion is 50%, the electrolysis should have a yield of 200% at least in order to self feed this process ....

For the mix, some tested with results more or less "good" but I do not know if he has something to do with this idea ...
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 02/09/05, 12:51

Rabbit wrote:The technique seems very promising. In our case the heat source exhaust gases, and the cooling could be done by air or by means of a radiator sup.

As for the healer, do not expect spectacular returns ... 20% at best.
It is reserved for the generation of electricity in "bonus" of thermal installation having large amount of thermal losses (the 10% of losses of an industrial boiler for example)
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 02/09/05, 12:56

yahi wrote:So according to you, that they must be the modifications to affect to adapt a gasoline engine, to the combustion of the hydrogen?
and for a diesel engine, is it not possible to do something?

I am not a specialist in the combustion of H2 but here is what I know.

Mercedes made a combustion engine powered by H2 in the 80 years, I believe the main changes were on the nature of the materials of the combustion chamber and moving part (ceramic in other) and on the mapping of the ignition (l H2 burns 10 x faster than gasoline)

In practice, any gasoline engine will run by injecting pure H2 in the intake pipe (not too far from the engine because the hydrogen passes through certain materials by a diffusion phenomenon ... so we must work on it to optimize the thing as well) but to optimize its use it is necessary to work on the 2 point quoted above ... In short it is unachievable for the particluliers that we are ...
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