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Manufacture torch hydrogen or Brown's Gas

Unread Messageby dudu x2 » 22 / 02 / 07, 23: 34

Hi everybody!!!

So to speak with us NLC Avont quite advanced on the production of hydrogen and an optimized electrolysis.

We have been testing the vehicle without having any true stisfaction on recent vehicles (I specify).

So in a nutshell, I'm starting on making a blowtorch.

You may be able to give me the answer.

I have to call it a hydrogen burner or a brown gas?

What is brown gas?

C the supply of oxygen to hydrogen, whose mixture burns and does not detonate?

If you have a precise definition of se word! you are welcome.



As far as the project is concerned I am doing 150 100mm * 100mm stainless steel plates.


For me, on the fact that I could read hydrogen blowpipes, it is necessary to add oxygen to find a balance and to avoid the explosion of the gas.


I have considered to make a tank under pressure of the order of 2 or three bars of pressure. A safety pressure valve and a pressure relief valve.

For the detender I would definitely take a detender for butane I think it will do.

Go put your sauce on me.

I would take note of it.

Thank you all !!
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Unread Messageby dudu x2 » 22 / 02 / 07, 23: 51

Good on brown gas I have that ...

It comes from quannt'homme

For those who if interress voila the link

http://quanthomme.free.fr/carburant/GazBrown.htm

Brown's Gas is: Empty + Water
With Brown's system, 1 kWh of electricity produces 340 liters of gas.
1 liter of water expands up to 1860 liters of gas. The reverse applies as well. During combustion, the gas implodes, giving 1859 vacuum units with a unit of water. Finally, pure water is always obtained.
1.860 l: 340 l = 5,47 kWh
Cost of 1860 liters of gas: 5,47 kWh X price of kWh (variable depending on the country) = 3, 28 FF

Todd Knudfson worked with Brown and would make material. He says: "Electricity + water = Brown Gas and Brown Gas + Ignition = Electricity + Water".
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Unread Messageby ThierrySan » 22 / 02 / 07, 23: 54

I advise you the panoply for the storage of hydrogen and its relaxation. Go to the site of liquid air, the safety cards, and what they advocate !!

For info, hydrogen is the finest gas existing ... It crosses any wall, even steel !! You will have gas losses. Now I know that aluminum has special characteristics for storage because it is cube-centered (arrangement of alloying molecules). I know that this feature offers more resistance to its diffusion through metal!
Also, it will be necessary to store your tank outside and to be well ventilated, otherwise, one beautiful morning you could have surprises ...

Then, as for making the blowpipe, it will be hot, but with perseverance, it is possible to get there ... Maybe if the gases are in liquid form, their continuous combustion will be easier to control, but There, I advance a little ... Perhaps a combustion expert will be able to give you a little more! : Wink:
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Unread Messageby dudu x2 » 23 / 02 / 07, 00: 02

For those who so interesting here is the link to their gear ...

http://www.airliquide.com/fr/products/laboratories/equipment.html


I'll search a can ...
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Unread Messageby rosco12 » 23 / 02 / 07, 08: 37

Hi all,

Otherwise for the realization of a torch, a Russian apparatus uses the ionization of water for the creation of a plasma.

With a consumption of 2.5 watt!

The disadvantage with this system for use in an engine is that the gas produced is immediately ignited at the nozzle outlet.
On the other hand, if it is a torch this becomes all good!

I put the links for info:

http://www.multiplaz.com/french/about.php

Sincerely,

ROSCO12
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Unread Messageby ThierrySan » 23 / 02 / 07, 11: 23

It's great this technology !!

On the other hand, it seems that they recruit a French translator !! : Mrgreen:
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Unread Messageby ThierrySan » 23 / 02 / 07, 11: 26

It's a little expensive anyway: 1900 $ !!
But for those who can afford it, do not hesitate, it really seems to make cuts in steel very very beautiful ...
To test!!
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Unread Messageby bham » 23 / 02 / 07, 11: 51

ThierrySan wrote:It's great this technology !!

On the other hand, it seems that they recruit a French translator !! : Mrgreen:

Ah, you saw that where?
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Unread Messageby ThierrySan » 23 / 02 / 07, 12: 18

It was a joke to make reference to the mistakes of French on their site ... LOL !! : Mrgreen:
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Unread Messageby gegyx » 23 / 02 / 07, 13: 45

Yeah, they're also looking for a dealer for France ... : Cheesy:
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