“Here is the testimony of a scientific" neophyte "about the" Pantone engine "(testimony of forum of utura science). For having studied the process quite well and after having visited Mr Pantone, I must say that I share some of these remarks (but not all) and especially this one: the situation is too critical to give credit to the charlatants claiming things that they are not able to simply prove!
Nevertheless, if Mr. Pantone can be qualified as dishonest (in this regard: avoid going to see him as I did, you will only lose your money, the discrepancy between the man and his site is obvious) he does not Nevertheless, it has indirectly made it possible, thanks to assemblies on diesel tractors and to the idea of Mr David, to show the efficiency of water injection in heat engines (see our experience on ZX Turbo Diesel ). Similarly, the idea of recovering losses from the exhaust to precondition the fuel or mixture seems good but very far from being mastered (see the engineering study on the Pantone process )… I suppose that the major problem is not technical but economic-human…
Contrary to this reasoning to believe that powerful industrial groups do not defend their interests would be pure naivety ”
Christophe Martz, June 14, 2004, who has nothing to sell 😉
Water, Engine and Pantonite ..
In order to make your engine totally ecological and more economical, you just need to apply a very simple process. Add to it a device called a “Pantone reactor”. A few elbows from the hardware store, a container to put water on, let it bubble, add a magnetic core and you're done. The engine thus "retrofitted" in addition to producing a driving force, cleans the ambient air by rejecting a gas mixture resembling the purest air with an extra spring smell, it also emits water vapor. pure which may be suitable for feeding infants and once the process has stabilized, we can even put dirty water from septic tanks to maintain the reaction while reducing the proportion of fossil fuel to infinitesimal solutions.
The preceding paragraph is only the summary of the descriptions published by Quanthomme. Rewrites in this way a doubt assails us
Water and heat engines ... For a long time, water has been found to be useful in so-called “internal combustion” engines, as opposed to “external combustion” engines such as steam engines. Water is omnipresent there. Any engineer who approaches these engines discovers the Carnot diagram, which explains the enthalpy of transformations within it. The efficiency of all these motors being characterized by Qa / Qc, that is to say "quantity of air" on "quantity of heat", if more air enters while one maintains the quantity of heat, the efficiency increases. The water vapor is then very interesting, its thermal inertia is mechanical is greater than air and than the combustible gas mixture. The cylinder will fill noticeably more while the combustion will be more controlled. Finally, the temperature of the "piston, jacket, cylinder head" combustion chamber being close to 500 ° after the water exhaust phase will allow better cooling of the assembly, such as water-water exchanger. Observations of efficiency gains of the order of 10 to 15% are regularly observed. The problem of long-term water supply comes from its advantages. When cold this vapor so much to condense in the cylinder block condensing by the same the explosive mixture. At high speed, when the outside environment is cold, frost forms in the fuel venturis. These problems can be easily modeled knowing that PV = nRT, n and R being constants of a given gaseous fluid, while P, V and T represent pressure, volume and temperature respectively. The physical inertia of the water vapor will tend to reduce the useful volume of the cylinder by mass effect. This reduction in the useful volume causes a change in the displacement of the engine comparable to overfeeding. This change shifts the ignition point making the mixture more explosive. We then recommend the addition of volatile compounds which will absorb too much calories during their gas phase delaying the reaction. It is mainly methanol. Finally and even more on Diesel engines, water so much oxidizes the combustion chamber on the one hand and the exhaust assembly on the other hand, while on a gasoline engine the mechanical stresses tend towards premature wear of the gasoline. mobile set. In conclusion, it is normal and modelable to gain efficiency when adding water or steam to a heat engine.
From this point it is easy to constitute with a little cunning a device which will appear revolutionary for the neophyte, by increasing the efficiency of an engine by water. The whole trick of putting on makeup - in English it sounds like "obfuscate" - the operation in the eyes of the dandy. Let's start by adding a magnetic core to it without explaining its role. Magnetism is still imbued with a certain magic in the minds of most people, it is one of the few forces that we are confronted with that we observe as the result. Let us then pretend that we do not know exactly why or how, but that the model can only be explained if the breaking of the water molecule occurs which and that everyone knows is composed only of oxygen and of hydrogen, the two combined offering perfect combustion. Surround yourself with scientific verbiage that is quite accessible. Let the gurus of all hair coat it all - pendulum calculation of odds, alchemical practice, ether theory, new chemical element - pantonium-, multi-pole magnet… Then you just have to SELL not industrialized devices but files allowing everyone to make the device themselves. If having bought it you get there, you are one of those chosen, otherwise we will suggest that you SUBSCRIBE to a letter describing possible variants.
Some dare to experience and finally their engines (which are not infallible! Sic!) Break. Others seek to understand and measure the phenomenon and are quickly dismissed, treated as an unbeliever or seeking a given solution are encouraged to revise their entire protocol. It is a sect finally, a technological sect but a sect anyway. The guru of course does not even take part in this verbiage, surrounded by an aura of sanctity is message is relayed only by the lieutenants or sub-lieutenants around him.
Why believe me, you will say? I do not know. I am neither an oilman, nor even a person of influence. Unfortunately, I pay for my fuel like everyone else. I am looking to find another approach to the problem of sustainable energy, like many. I have nothing to sell is surely my best argument. Why not believe them? They SELL sensible notebooks open the door to exclusivity. For the sole good of humanity, then why of prices varying according to purchasing power. Besides, $ 400 for the USA and $ 600 for Germany, and given the number of tons of carbon emitted in these 2 cases seems to me to be a joke. Unless of course Germany is the world's leading power. Wouldn't it be rather because the seed of ecology is stronger there. I forgot, 20 years to develop a Pantoniser on a VW engine, even without a mathematical model, still seems very slow to me. Mr. Diesel took less time than that. The basis of the theory is based on a divine message of 1h30 which furthermore recommended the business model. Any measuring instrument will interfere with the reaction. Never disassemble the device, it works that's all.
Sincerely your Jean-Marc
I add a copy of an email from a visitor to this site:
"The inventor of this system is called Paul Pantone, he presents himself as the great savior of humanity, and, unable to develop a technique that he discovered we do not know how, filed a patent, then freely communicated the principle on the web. Thus, if someone pulls the chestnuts out of the fire for him, he will be able to feel the dollars, without having to tire or invest. In the meantime, he scams the pigeons, by selling them his "plans", intended to transform their automobile, to run on tap water. For 1500 dollars, his bogus company "GEET", initiates you, and reveals its "secrets" to you in an "internship" in Salt Lake City.
But the system itself, although experimental, exists, and its effects seem difficult to explain.
A young French engineer, Christophe Martz, wanted to get to the bottom of it, and, as part of his final project at ENSAIS, built a test bench, intended to test the Pantone system; The results are truly surprising: the reduction, for the moment inexplicable in pollution has been proven. The engine even seems capable of operating by sucking in its own exhaust. Surprising no? It seems that the mixture introduced into the Pantone reactor, turns into a gas, for the moment undetermined, but with very interesting properties. Mr. Martz has also measured a reduction in consumption of 10%. You can find the full report at this address: pantone report
Another manufacturer, Mr. DAVID, has carried out and published tests on various engines. He even made an extraordinary burner, using diesel as fuel, and producing an intense heat, without any apparent release: http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/pagedavid/PageM_David8.htm that might be a good solution , for heating some of our locomotives (perfect indoors, for example…).
The Quant'Homme site, which contains the work of Mr. DAVID, is intended to be a non-exhaustive collection of “exotic” ideas. It's nice to read, especially if you liked Grimm's tales in his youth; It's a shame, because it discredits the serious work of Messrs. Martz and David.
Here, I think, currently showing that the CAV, at its level, is concerned with the environment, and more particularly with air quality, can only be profitable for all of us; If so, tell me what you think.
Cordially. "