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by Did67 » 03/02/16, 14:57

Hello,


You also need to find out if the wastewater treatment service charges a tax or fee.

The difference is subtle, but the tax is linked to your water consumption (since there are no waste water meters, it is drinking water that acts as a measure of the quantity consumed, therefore of the quantity released - in principle).

The fee is due, even if you don't consume water!

For the obligation to connect to the collective network, as it says everything and anything and that the internet is the kingdom of everything and anything, go see what a lawyer who knows the texts says:

http://www.village-justice.com/articles ... 20588.html
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by Gaston » 03/02/16, 17:18

Did67 wrote:For the obligation to connect to the collective network, as it says everything and anything and that the internet is the kingdom of everything and anything, go see what a lawyer who knows the texts says:

http://www.village-justice.com/articles ... 20588.html
And in summary, he says that it is mandatory unless it is technically too complicated and / or expensive (and in this case, it must be the decision of a judge).

This confirms that the owner of a building has no choice: he must connect or demonstrate that it is "impossible".
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by Did67 » 03/02/16, 18:05

Yes.

And for a house project, probably if the place is not serviced, so if we cannot connect, this must be a reason for refusing a building permit ...

Suaf without dopute, as for all regulations, exceptions: farm, mountain refuge, etc ...

It is very restrictive. On the other hand, it must be recognized that the "half-size" of the landscape, with houses' anyhow and anywhere, is the footing for those who can settle in a quiet corner. But it is everyone else's space that is being robbed!
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by Forhorse » 03/02/16, 19:03

div.ecolo wrote:Besides, I do not understand a thing, I read here is there on government sites that we can, in addition to outdoor applications, use rainwater for flushing toilets and washing machines (conditionally) ... But on the other hand it is forbidden to send rainwater into the collective network.
So if I understand correctly we have the right but we have no right ...



No, you don't quite understand.
There are 2 things to distinguish:
- The rainwater that comes directly from your roof and that you do not have the right to send in a collective sanitation network (we can easily understand why: a big storm and the WWTP is overflowing ...) *
- Waste water which is the source of rain: for example water to supply the toilet flush, and which you must send to the sanitation network. On this subject there are sometimes certain subtlety and I heard that in some municipalities it was necessary to install a rainwater meter so that the sanitation fee is calculated on your consumption of drinking water and rainwater recovered.

* I have heard that some towns have a network that collects used water rainwater in the same pipes. I do not really see how it is possible and if it is the case it is very minority. I think that it is especially a misunderstanding of certain inhabitants when the creation of a collective sanitation network is decided and that the municipality takes advantage of the works to create at the same time, but in separate ways, a rainwater collection network ... the magic of the internet doing the rest.
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by Forhorse » 03/02/16, 19:06

Did67 wrote:Yes.

And for a house project, probably if the place is not serviced, so if we cannot connect, this must be a reason for refusing a building permit ...


Absolutely, I knew this well with my house (yet built for almost 2 centuries)
I was refused the building permit on the grounds that I was not connectable to the electricity network (when I was already connected to the drinking water network and the telephone network, and no problem for individual sanitation)
All the subtleties are in the law known as SRU ...
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by chatelot16 » 03/02/16, 20:09

inquire at the town hall the problem is that the mayor is judge and party ... inquire to pay less is already starting to defraud ... if the mayor is hostile you have to be forgotten and inquire otherwise

sewing on the sewer is compulsory ... it is therefore better to do it in the rules than to stand out

connection to the water supply, ditto, but nothing prevents you from using your rainwater for what you want ... the only thing prohibited is the mixture which would risk sending your toxic rainwater and radio active in the intake network ... if the water meter is completely disconnected there is no risk of mixing!

rainwater quality control? we all have a good instrument: the nose! bad water ends up smelling bad ... my rainwater when all is well keeps like mineral water: you can leave a bottle in front of the window, it does not turn green and does not take a bad taste. .. sometimes it does not work, for example I had let brambles invade a roof: there was no need for analysis to show that the water was less clear ... everything went back to normal after cleaning ... for a few months while the main tank is filling, I took my drinking water in emergency tanks containing water for several years ... contrary to what is said water does not stagnate, when it is in the dark it keeps forever! I would even say that below a certain concentration of organic matter it purifies: whatever bacteria there may be exhaust organic matter and everything falls to the bottom

this is the principle of purifying the water in the basement!
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by AXEAU » 03/02/16, 21:07

Hello, I think you have heard of SPANC which was supposed to be in place in 2012 I think. It sets up slowly.
Basically, compulsory connection to the network. If it is technically impossible or too expensive, individual sanitation after soil study. If the study is negative the permit will not be issued. If it is good there will be a periodic verification of the compulsory system. Today it seems that individually it is more expensive.

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by div.ecolo » 04/02/16, 00:21

Ok it's very clear we are walking with two or three exceptions to confirm the rule ...

But one must absolutely and, under pain of prosecution, remain totally dependent on those who control the water (and pollutes it) ...

Every day a new proof of our serfdom ... : Cry:
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