Complete file on rainwater recovery

[little sparrow]

Re,

installing a rainwater recovery system for use as a drink would be more than largely profitable ... but it is prohibited in France it seems to me ...

thank you for finding me a text of law which would stipulate that ...

"Most of the network is unitary, with wastewater and runoff being collected in the same pipe."

I will try to find new texts on this subject, as soon as I have a little time .., but it is now prohibited, but not yet in all cases .. it seems ..

cordially

[Christophe]

I conclude that for the health of all, the installation of a rainwater recovery system for use as a drink would be more than largely profitable ...

A single hospitalization with non-potable water and the profitability of a rainwater recovery system collapses ... for the family in question but also for the community ...

We make a lot of hay with legionella (more than we should I think) I think that does not speak enough about the development of health risks in rainwater systems.

Obviously there is the 2nd finest bcp filter but the risk of forgetting to change the cartridges exists! Besides, how much does a refill cost and how often should you do it? If it's like reverse osmosis, buy bottled water... It's hard to say but it's almost true ...

@Pierrot

Completely agree on the collective: this is where priority should be given, once again: pkoi it would be the citizens to lead by example? Shame on these lobbies. Besides, you will notice that France is one of the European champion of lobbying ... it relies a little too much on its outdated designation of the country of human rights I believe ...

It seems to me to have read € 20 somewhere but it was perhaps for something bigger than a single family home ...

For the 8000 € it is the tank installed + prefilter it seems to me ... and the cost of the 2nd network installed in the house? It amounts well to 2 to 3000 € if done by a pro ...

In the case of a renovation it is almost inconceivable ...

For 2 person, last year we consumed 55m3 I believe invoiced less than 2 € ... 110 € annual bill therefore! A small installation at 6000 € is therefore 54 years back! And I do not include maintenance or electrical costs or health risk ... good water may increase which would balance these operating costs. Come on let's say 50 years ... sorry I don't sign !!

So I think that as an individual econological action, there are better things to do than the rain recovery and "drinking water" system ... on the other hand for his car or his garden a tank of a few tens of euros pays for itself quickly enough if you have a green thumb ... so there yes ...

Now when we see the price of new solar panels we can ask questions ... and people do the same calculations back and don't sign ...

Anyway, we haven't left the inn ...

ps: I was convinced that you were pro ... in any case you are as much, if not more, competent than the professionals in the middle ...

[loop]

Hello

Drinking rainwater?
Isn't this water free of minerals essential to the body?

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[Christophe]

Yes quite looping but when I said to make it drinkable it was to make it "not harmful" from a bacterial point of view ...

Not dangerous ...

In your opinion, people who have been drinking osmosis water exclusively for years should start to have some deficiencies then?

[fthanron]

Drinking rainwater ... and it is well known that plants, animals ... do not support rainwater if it is not filtered ... then Western humans, let's not even talk about it!

Was it a joke or am I completely to the west on the concept of naturally potable rainwater and much healthier for health than the water of bottled thieves or other thieves at the tap? !!!!

Good Sunday under your applause that he said the other! O)

[Christophe]

Drinking rainwater ... and it is well known that plants, animals ... do not support rainwater if it is not filtered ...

Uh where do you get this from? It's "a bit" of intoxication, if it were the case there would be more plants and wild animals in ... nature ...

[fthanron]

It's second degree Christophe ...

[loop]

Bonsoir

The water leaving a softener is loaded with sodium, instead of calcium.
Result, by consuming this water, we cause circulatory problems, as if it were salt water
For osmosis water, it's the same, the absence of essential minerals (see composition of spring water) is detrimental to human health


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[little sparrow]

Re,

I think that does not speak enough about the development of health risks in rainwater systems.

they talk about it ... but no matter how alas .. !!! .. and on completely distorted bases!
(technically, already ....)

Obviously there is the 2nd finest bcp filter but the risk of forgetting to change the cartridges exists!

that someone who makes himself drinkable must be aware that he manages his health as much as his technique ...
it is not Chinese either to change your cartridge 1 X / year ..!

Besides, how much does a refill cost and how often should you do it?

it all depends on the filter ...
price, around 40 to 60 € for single cartridge, 1 X / year.
120 to 150 € for multi-cartridges, 1 X / year.
(approximately ...)

If it's like reverse osmosis, buy bottled water ...

certainly not .. !!
a (good) reverse osmosis unit is more expensive to purchase, but more durable, and unsurpassed quality of water ... !!
and based on tap water, it costs less than the bottles .. !!

pkoi it would be the citizens to lead by example?

because we realize that we must now "force things", otherwise, it does not advance .......

For the 8000 € it is the tank installed + prefilter it seems to me ... and the cost of the 2nd network installed in the house? It amounts well to 2 to 3000 € if done by a pro ...

it is possible to do everything for this price .. !!
as it is also possible to do the same for 3 X this price .... !!

In the case of a renovation it is almost inconceivable ...

but no ... absolutely not ...
I am also in renovation ...
and for 30 M3 with efficient ancillary equipment .., I have € 8000 for months ......

So I think that as an individual econological action, there are better things to do than the rain recovery and "drinking water" system ...

yeah ... if you want .., although I can neither agree with your calculation method (much too simplified!) nor with this statement ...
but each his vision ...

ps: I was convinced that you were pro ... in any case you are as much, if not more, competent than the professionals in the middle ...

well, I don't know what made you think that ..., but thanks anyway ..!

Drinking rainwater?
Isn't this water free of minerals essential to the body?

"meteorite" rainwater .. maybe ...
the same rainwater stored in concrete tanks .. = certainly not!
and should we still remember that minerals inorganic present in water cannot be assimilated by the body .. !!!

In your opinion, people who have been drinking osmosis water exclusively for years should start to have some deficiencies then?

certainly not ..
and studies have already shown the opposite ..!

Was it a joke or am I completely to the west on the concept of naturally potable rainwater and much healthier for health than the water of bottled thieves or other thieves at the tap? !!!!

it should be remembered that rainwater is not to be considered potable in its raw state (even if it is possible in certain places) .. !!
You have to compare what is comparable ..
on the other hand, properly stored and properly filtered rainwater is much better (for health) than most tap water .. !!

The water leaving a softener is loaded with sodium, instead of calcium.
Result, by consuming this water, we cause circulatory problems, as if it were salt water

here too, watch out !!
softened water has nothing to do with rainwater ... !!!
even if the 2 have "the same softness" .. !!

For osmosis water, it's the same, the absence of essential minerals (see composition of spring water) is detrimental to human health

FALSE !!
on the one hand, osmosis water is not ofmineralized but weakly mineralized !!
on the other hand, the mineralization of water for daily consumption must being weak !! , and without any harm to health .. on the contrary ...
it would be good to dispel certain preconceived ideas ...!

cordially

[Christophe]

It's second degree Christophe ...

Ah? Well, it looked like a "quote" ... in short, you were repeating other people's words. Be careful with this kind of thing on a forum it doesn't show right away ...

it all depends on the filter ...
price, around 40 to 60 € for single cartridge, 1 X / year.
120 to 150 € for multi-cartridges, 1 X / year.
(approximately ...)

Hey well here ... sorry I insist but with our 110 € water bill per year, how do you want recovery to be financially attractive? We would lose money and we would have health risks ... And since the financial and environmental costs are more or less linked ...

on the one hand, osmosis water is not demineralized, but weakly mineralized !!
on the other hand, the mineralization of water for daily consumption must be low !! , and without any harm to health .. on the contrary ...
it would be good to dispel certain preconceived ideas ...!

Well there must be 2 of us to be badly informed (at least) since looping just said exactly the same thing ...