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by FB56 » 13/12/06, 22:30

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Good news !!
the tax credit was voted at the national assembly this morning at 25% up to € 8000.

all info on http://www.pluie.new.fr , heading "tax credit"
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http://www.e-monsite.com/eaudepluie/...e-1005830.html
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by little sparrow » 15/12/06, 11:24

Hello ,

2nd reading at Ass. Nat. ended Wednesday 13, and amendment No. 100 for art. 23 ter on the tax credit was adopted, now offering a rate of 25% for a maximum amount of equipment of € 8000 ....

amendment No. 101 was also adopted, and against the Government's opinion, this amendment proposes that the list of equipment and the conditions of application and installation be defined only by the ministries of ecology and housing, thus zapping the budget and health ....
(between us .. it's not worse! ...)

Also know that Joint Joint Committee is being established for analysis of the remaining discrepancies, and then back to the assemblies for review and final vote.
.. before, finally, the final control for promulgation of the "new law on water" ....

to be continued ....

On the other hand, it will also be necessary to follow the amendment 62 which gives topicality to a tax credit of 25% proposed for rehabilitation works of non-collective sanitation ... a subject also previously rejected by the Senate, and adopted this Tuesday despite "a very unfavorable opinion of the Government" ...!

(..all details can be viewed as well ( : Cheesy: ) via my blog ....)

cordially : Wink:
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by hug » 15/12/06, 15:01

In practice, how much does it cost, how much does it save?
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by little sparrow » 15/12/06, 21:19

Hello ,

"hug" hug,

sorry but it is impossible to answer this question ....
because it is not the "generalizable standard" ....
it depends on various factors which are quite decisive ...
So you have to consider the thing "case by case", even if the "specialized companies" will answer you: it is such installation with such volume and such material for such cost ..... !!
(you have to see for some time now that some have hastened to announce the tax credit as if it were already effective, while it is not yet definitively defined !!)
but this is a bit normal, since they are above all "sellers - installers", and they sell their "kits" almost always in the same form ....
there, it is really "standardized" .. !!

but in a conscientious and well carried out approach, one cannot consider it as such ....

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by hug » 15/12/06, 21:26

little sparrow wrote:Hello ,

"hug" hug,

sorry but it is impossible to answer this question ....
because it is not the "generalizable standard" ....
it depends on various factors which are quite decisive ...


Certainly. But there, it looks like a politician who speaks! ;)
Can we take 1 example or 2?
I ask this question because when I see the ceiling of 8000 EUR, it scares me a little just to collect the water!
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by zac » 15/12/06, 21:54

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Excuse me hug but you bbbbbeeegggggaye, 4 times the same post : Lol:

Everything that is "subsidized" is largely overestimated, records are reached by medicine and equipment for the disabled.

So there are 3 solutions either you assume yourself and you do not take care of the subsidy (economic, simple and without risks), either you play the subsidy (hassle, expensive and without risks) or you play it rebel false invoice, subsidy and personal installation (profitable, painful and risky) : Mrgreen:

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by little sparrow » 15/12/06, 22:17

Hello again ,

yeah yeah it's okay ... you didn't have to repeat it 5 x .... !!!
: Mrgreen: : Cheesy:

no unfortunately, I will not go ahead to give you a phony example which will probably correspond to nothing for you ....
it would hardly advance you ...
now if you give me precise information, of a precise situation, there OK, I am willing to calculate the sizing necessary for your case, but do we still need to calculate it ..!

and for that ... what would you do ?? , what type of installation and for what uses? ... would you use a specialized company? , would you do the work and the installation by yourself? , and the material, who will buy it and where ?? .....

so you see .., it's not so obvious ..

and concerning the maximum amount of € 8000 of the tax credit, it corresponds to the expenditure ceiling equipment only !! (since the work would no longer be taken into account ..), and there I must say that it is a bit of an eye-opener, because there are few facilities that cost € 8000 just in equipment. . !!

but if you really want to clarify your ideas, I would advise you to request several quotes from various specialized companies, you compare them with each other, and then you compare the average amount with my personal installation (self-design and self-construction) which includes:
- 30 m3 of rainwater storage
- 14 m3 of purification tanks
- filtering plant trench + finishing pond for sanitation
- waterproof false well for overflow and recycling of wastewater in irrigation
- complete earthworks + backfilling + complete land reshaping (= 3 1/2 days of work for the film maker)
- tank transport + unloading + on-site transport
- including tax

all without connections and piping, € 6600 .....

If you can make this comparison, you will come back STP to give me some news, but I am sure that you will better understand why it is not necessary to "standardize" ..... !!!

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by hug » 15/12/06, 22:40

little sparrow wrote:and concerning the maximum amount of € 8000 of the tax credit, it corresponds to the expenditure ceiling equipment only !!

little sparrow wrote:all without connections and piping, € 6600 .....


Ben 6600 Eur (not always understood from what I understand), it's not that far from 8000 EUR!

And all that to save how much water?
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by little sparrow » 15/12/06, 23:13

re,

tell me Hug, did you read all the lines ... ??

reread carefully what is included mon setup....
knowing that it is a "big" installation of rainwater + sanitation + hand of O + transport + ttc ....., and the sanitation is for a PE of 12 people !! ....
(this installation will allow me a complete autonomy in water for the house !!!)

we are therefore far from the 8000 € of equipment alone! , and a "normal", family EDP installation .....

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by little sparrow » 31/03/07, 10:15

Hello,

For those who are interested and who follow the evolution of things a little, concerning the tax credit and the domestic uses of rainwater ..., I invite you to read the article-analysis that I just mentioned publish, in reaction to the current drafting of the decree defining the practical arrangements for this tax credit for domestic uses, which could provide for not accepting "internal" uses and / or double water networks in the 'habitat ... !!!
: Evil:

France is already 2 wars behind some of its direct neighbors, it now intends to step back a little more and sink into the grotesque .....
:frown:

see : http://ec-eau-logis.over-blog.net/article-6227256.html

Thank you for your attention ...
and your reactions ..

cordially :?
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