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Re: River pump




by marieagnes » 24/06/09, 15:19

oli 80 wrote:good evening, here is a rather unusual pump you have already seen all pumps powered by a water mill and well here is a type of submersible pump which works thanks to the current of a river river or stream http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oCt-EHQQvs the video is pretty self explanatory, there is even a link on their official website http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p9viHDU ... re=related



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that's exactly what I'm looking for but where can we have the plans for this pump ??

I have a river running down my garden. my husband and I refuse to use pumps that use energy other than that of the (very small ...) stream of water. but my arms are tired of carrying buckets of water to tomatoes ....

when I see that I tell myself that this is exactly what I am looking for but not being good at computer science ... I don't know where or how to find the plans of your machine. I saw the video and the comments of people but that's all ... can you help me please?

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by oli 80 » 24/06/09, 21:06

good evening, this pump is submersible, so it takes a certain depth to make it work, the official site is this one
http://www.izumi.si/ and an explanatory site http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Direct ... River_Pump there is a pdf file but unfortunately it is in English sorry

have you watched the other videos of the Latin American pumps the concept is also interesting
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by elephant » 24/06/09, 21:24

marie agnes said:

but my arms are tired of carrying buckets of water to tomatoes ...
. while he naps ??? : Mrgreen:

as you have training, you know that you can heat yourself all winter with only 2 buckets of coal? 8)
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by Ahmed » 24/06/09, 22:38

If the drop is not too large, there is much simpler: a paddle wheel, called noria, carrying small side containers which draw water in turn. A gutter collects the water.
There is no need for a high speed, nor a monstrous device, what counts above all is the diameter of the wheel which determines the pumping height.
See: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noria

By mulching your tomatoes in abundance you could reduce their need for water in very large proportions.
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by marieagnes » 25/06/09, 12:20

thank you oli 80
no problem for an english plan!
I think there are water holes big enough for you to immerse this type of pump, but it's not won ... must calculate (and there it is my husband who calculates!) I will print the doc to him

I looked at the other systems but I find it too showy ... I don't want to distort the site with a big metal roll too showy or something similar ...

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but no, my husband is not napping, he drinks an aperitif!
:? it seems that pastis is sacred here ... :?


Ahmed,
thank you for your idea ...

last year I made this system:
I hung a tire wheel without a tire on top of a tree and another one tanned on the river, we hung empty cans on the wire and the idea is exactly that of the diagram (we started with cans for do tests but rest assured, if we had managed to walk we would have put small wooden pots).

Anyway ... we had a good laugh but it didn't work at all, only one out of 100 cans fell in the right place, the others most often watered the one who turned the wheel down.

on the other hand in the idea it pleased me thoroughly

when to mulch the tomatoes ... you will have to water them anyway ... in the afternoon the tomatoes need water every day with or without straw!
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by elephant » 25/06/09, 14:57

The noria is indeed a good idea, I had thought about it but I was a little afraid that people think I was laughing. In fact there is a way to orient the jugs and it should not be too small. It is even necessary to arrange so that the water does not fall immediately. There is always a loss.

There are 2 types of noria. The simple ones or the jugs are fixed on the wheel and more complex with a chain and 2 pulleys

In the cinema, there is a very beautiful one in "la folie des grandeur" among the barbaresques, but driven by slaves.
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by marieagnes » 25/06/09, 15:40

the noria is great and then it will not distort because I can do it in wood and terracotta but ... I swear to you it's not that easy to set up.

maybe the cans weren't heavy enough .... but what a hassle to settle.

and in my region we often get windy and that ... the water suddenly does not fall at all where it is needed.

I wanted something very simple, I think that Noria is not bad
even if it is necessary to make a manual action to turn the wheel it is always less tiring than the buckets !!

I tried to make an al jazari pump with a plan ... total failure ....
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by Ahmed » 25/06/09, 18:35

Like everything that is simple, the noria needs to be well thought out: everything is in the setting and the proportions.
Take advantage of the pastis to think about it peacefully!

You say:
when to mulch the tomatoes ... you will have to water them anyway ... in the afternoon the tomatoes need water every day with or without straw!


Warning! There is mulching and mulching! Straw, contrary to appearances, is not very suitable for this role. At less than a great thickness, the structure of the straw is too ventilated to form an effective antiperspirant barrier, moreover, in your case, the wind would constantly move it.
A pre-compost of crushed branches covered with fresh crushed mulch (cover) would be very effective.
In Burkina-Faso (where it is quite hot!) Vegetable crops under BRF (fragmented rameal wood) require only one watering once every 2 days instead of 2 times a day. Under your climate, you can hope to do at least as well!
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by marieagnes » 26/06/09, 11:19

Ahmed wrote:Like everything that is simple, the noria needs to be well thought out: everything is in the setting and the proportions.
Take advantage of the pastis to think about it peacefully!

: Cheesy: : Cheesy:
the pastis I leave it to my husband, I will rather think about the water !! :P

someone has already made a noria that works in his garden?
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by oli 80 » 26/06/09, 16:08

hello, this choice of the submersible river pump also seems appropriate to me not to demature the landscape, because the green double piston pump with the large yellow paddle wheel, would dent the landscape, a large dike, a gutter, to make the water flow. 'water from above on the paddle wheel, not to mention all the work to implement all this, installing a small "markovic" submersible pump is simpler I think, or a hydraulic ram

what is an al jazari pump it would be interesting too
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