French law on the recovery of rainwater

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by jonule » 09/07/08, 13:22

absolutely !
then fuel, for example ;-)
knowing that what comes out of the anaerobic biogas reaction is fertilizer.

to come back to my idea, Goudge, in fact I want to collect rainwater to reinject it in the toilets, but also for the shower, the bath, the washing machine etc! here is the trick ;-) and obviously made from cheap: for the tank I am moving towards a new plastic septic tank (they are doing specials at the moment for the sanitation regularization 2012) modified! even for the booster, on the internet they explain how to make one:
http://www.ideesmaison.com/Un-groupe-su ... nti_retour

for the dry puppy I will re-study the transformation into fertilizer, I preferred to make biogas with a small reactor ...

I was aiming for the risk like someone is sick and going to the toilet in your dry toilet, it's not going to be cool for the tomatoes that your children will eat, especially if someone was in chemotherapy treatment for example! hence the idea of ​​keeping one for the guests.

I always have my dry puppy, this summer he will be in the garden in a cabin, like the old way it makes me laugh 8)
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by Goudge » 10/07/08, 13:36

Indeed, the EEC takes often dubious measures for the simple reason that it is under the influence (and / or control) of the villains of this planet. Without wanting to leave the subject of this post, I would only like to say that the only goal of this integration (Europe) is the advent of "world government", even further removed from the needs and concerns of the grassroots citizen. is currently Europe or the United States. From this observation we can find the real motivations of many current deviances at all levels (health, energy, centralization, single currencies, world trade, mad agriculture, etc ....).

For what you say about the stream in your village, so much the better if an improvement is visible. But that does not mean that this stream is in better health, most of the pollutants are not "visible" because they are diluted (do not necessarily associate mud with pollution). Apart from before / after analyzes, the really objective criterion will be the reappearance of life in this stream. Clear but polluted water is not an improvement for nature, as can be seen in Germany with lakes sterilized by acid rain.

The pollution by radioactivity is not more visible, and that's why some "environmentalists" (not "environmentalists" I hope!) Are selling us this shit as a credible alternative.

The problem of urban waste disposal is important. Regarding wastewater and treatment plants we always come back to the same bad referral to the aqueous medium.

All these stations which are worth a high price, monopolies of the same multinationals which poison our planet, have by definition neither the means nor the ambition besides to solve the problem in its entirety, unfortunately.

In addition, it is still an additional leash attached to our neck. One more dependence like the meter that we already have there for energy, health, food .... and when the price of these supplies goes up, because it goes up constantly since the system is flawed, that we squeeze the dick a little more!

Unfortunately, we cannot count on this system to save us because it is designed and directed to exploit us.

Salvation is elsewhere, in the search for autonomy lost by the concentration of the population in the cities, the increasingly large delegation granted on our needs and the exaggerated and deceptive integration in a system of assistance falsely reassuring and who took control.

Many “solutions” that are presented to us as “of the future” are not valid because they have too heavy an energy, environmental or financial cost (often all three!).

The decision-makers who cultivate us make the choices of their interest, not ours despite the varnish of appearances that maintains the press.

Personally I am not very optimistic about our future. The relative peace of our regions risks being wiped out in the short term by the magnitude of the difficulties encountered by everyone to survive and no longer live.

The more we will be dependent and integrated into this system in full regression and mutation, the more it will be difficult to rebound in the turbulent times which are looming.

This is why I do not fight the idea of ​​the resumption of autonomy, and the preferential use of the means within my reach. I don't care if we tax that regression, return to the past or decline ... These are just words in the face of evils.

So the taboo of poop ..... : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:
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by jonule » 10/07/08, 13:55

your point is perfectly made Goudge and I salute you

on the other hand, we must not do anything with organic waste so as not to fall ill with the disease of others by transmission of infection, which is less the case when we are alone it is true. after there is resistant and resistant. all the information on this subject exists on the net.
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by Goudge » 10/07/08, 14:09

To Jonule who answered faster than me,

Water recovery is a noble cause and I share your point of view.

I only criticize its use in flush toilets because, whatever we do, it is a bad way for the environment.

For the accidental intake of dangerous pharmaceutical molecules, everything depends on the ability or incapacity of natural processing agents to degrade these products. The answer depends on the nature of these molecules and I am not qualified to say. However, I have observed that the soil is a powerful biological reactor with excellent adaptability.

Anyway, all cancer patients should be reminded of the low success rate of this type of official treatment (with an exorbitant economic cost) and advise them to learn about the other therapeutic approaches of association or replacement which , although combated and despised, some have had real results and a positive impact on other plans.

As for the hut at the bottom of the garden, you can certainly transform it at low cost into a modern and practical TLB, more efficient also as a biological reactor, just to make a good quality compost for the tomatoes in your garden. .

A few years ago, I used and then even sold on a professional basis the products of the German inventor Roland Plocher (PENAC). I remember the reports with impressive results of the use of Penac K on human excrement composted for reuse in gardens (in Vietnam I think). The problem was in particular the reduction of endoparasites (worms) in order to avoid reinfestation.
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by jonule » 10/07/08, 14:30

good ok, I'm going to (re) launch you convinced me!

as I told you, I experienced the dry puppy (TLB) for 6 months, this summer I will put it outside just to taste this freedom.
I watch what I eat, and I don't take medicine. it can only be as good as horse or cow manure ;-)
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by Goudge » 12/07/08, 00:04

A good decision, especially since you had already taken the step before.

I think it is important to have all the information to (re) launch by minimizing the risk of disappointment.

The use of a TLB is rather simple but it is important to have a fairly precise idea of ​​the many phenomena involved in composting in general, and in that of human excreta in particular, in order to be more able to avoid causes the problems that appear when you "tinker" without really knowing.

To see more clearly, there is a wealth of explanations and examples here:
http://www.eautarcie.com/Eautarcie/5.To ... _seche.htm
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by Hasardine » 27/07/08, 12:16

we also use dry toilets (it amuses children), only my husband is resistant to it and yet it is he who built them !!!

look for the error, only 10 people, we empty 2X a day and the compost becomes too small !!!

in short I don't really know what to do with my waste.

To return to the washing machine (and this is a request from my 5 year old daughter) how to connect it to the rainwater collector? I explained to him that for the moment I was incapable of it!

thank you in advance for your help.
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by TATAMI » 27/07/08, 23:39

Hello,
Well spoken Goudge and Jonule.
I have plans to build a house in which I will install TLBs. Do you know if there is a request to make to the administration? Besides, where is the law on the regulation of TLBs?
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by little sparrow » 27/07/08, 23:53

Bonjour,


@ tatami ,

no particular step is necessary concerning a dry toilet ...

the TLB should (??) "finally" make its appearance in the new texts concerning the ANC ..., but it is a complete mess in the drafting of these texts, remodeled and rediscussed and "corrected" constantly. .. so ... let's wait .... let's wait ..... let's wait ....

@ chance,

you don't know a "good" neighbor who would be interested or willing to recover some of your current composting ... ??
(for personal use then ...)

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by jonule » 28/07/08, 12:24

Hasardine wrote:To return to the washing machine (and this is a request from my 5 year old daughter) how to connect it to the rainwater collector? I explained to him that for the moment I was incapable of it!

thank you in advance for your help.


hi, to connect the washing machine to the rainwater collector, you must connect the rainwater recovery system (already have it) to the washing machine! I mean, already plug in waterproof fittings, it depends on the fitting, if you want to take a photo but:
the water which arrives there must be filtered a minimum, I mean not too much filth, there is a mini metal filter at the entrance of the washing machine normally but not that it gets clogged, ditto for the pressure: it will be necessary can be add a booster at the rainwater recovery outlet, unless you already have it, it is used to supply pressure to the whole house: tap, shower etc ...
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