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by sen-no-sen » 27/05/14, 17:49

Following the results of the European elections what should we think?

Little reminder:

1) the National Front wins these Europeans with 26% of the votes. He sends to Brussels from 23 to 25 seats (on 74). The FN is in the lead in five of the seven metropolitan constituencies (outside Ile-de-France and West).

2) the UMP arrives five points behind the FN. This disappointing result weakens Jean-François Cope who promises an explanation on the Bygmalion case.

3) François Hollande suffers a scathing failure, eight weeks after the slap of the municipal.


http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/elections/en-direct-europeennes-suivez-les-resultats-de-l-election_1545579.html

Contrary to what some media say, the triumph of the FN is not to be related to a genuine French adherence to the deep ideas of the party scarecrow.

In fact, such a result is the signal of a popular suffering vis-a-vis the ultra-liberal policies of which we suffer the pains for some decades already.
The almost abandonment of the parties of the left of the left can very well be explained: its last defend an opening on the world, the abolition of borders, the legalization of the undocumented etc ...
Except it appears that the contradictions of the left of the left are now too obvious for Citizens to still swallow them, it is hardly possible to advocate openness and protection of employment and national sovereignty. ..

As Coluche said:"The left is zero, the right is zero, I vote zero"

What do you think?
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by chatelot16 » 27/05/14, 19:06

the result of these elections is the success of the draw or abstention, which directly benefits the only party that has something to say clearly ... I do not really agree with what the national front says, but I recognize that it's the only party that expresses itself clearly so that has its true partisan well motivated

Among the comments heard since this election I liked the one: the elections have become beauty pageants! candidates are judged according to their appearance without ever knowing what they are capable of doing

and I will return to the usefulness of a serious political party that builds a serious project before presenting it ... not like a certain puppet who was elected and who 2 years later still does not know what to do .. to put the ball in the center the previous horn did not get any better

to get out of this vicious circle of election beauty contest requires a new political party that proves its competence by building a real prototype government, with a sufficient number of competent person to build a serious project, and show that it will be ready to to govern usefully the day after the election

when we see the problem at the ump of the kind engulf 26 millons in 2 years: what to pay 500 person full time for 2 years:

with 500 person there would have been enough to make a real prototype of government and present serious projects ... who hears the least project coming from the ump? this money was wasted on communication ... in the genre we have nothing to say but we have the means to say it very hard!

the front has no great financial means but he clearly say what he has to say!

Sarkosi was sentenced for I do not know what wastage and he managed to charge members of the ump ... for what result? for a party that still has not the slightest idea to present!

you have to create a new political party that builds something really serious!

currently when you have precise ideas to present the communication does not cost anything: just a website!

what is more difficult is to pass from the electoral promise method Coué to the true well studied project taking into account the real situation: it requires work!

the ump that wasted huge amounts just for communication and did nothing to build a project is lamentable

the Socialists are no less so by persisting in clinging to principles that never work

Without a new party, the national front will be even stronger in the next election!
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by Ahmed » 27/05/14, 19:19

The result of these elections is the success of the draw or the abstention ...

Indeed, with only 10% of the votes of the total electorate, the National Front appears as a resurrection of the Boulangist movement, ei a protest vote, heteroclite gathering of disappointed Europe for various reasons (which are not lacking!).
The first party is that of abstention!
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by Christophe » 27/05/14, 19:42

A new party? Bayrou tried with the results we know!

The French electorate is quite conservative: right / left + extremes ...
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by chatelot16 » 27/05/14, 19:59

bayrou ??? has he already proposed something specific?

what it takes to avoid choosing between the right and the left is not the center!

it is a project studied with competence to do what is effective without being limited to the ideas of right or left ... the world has multiple dimensions ... to be limited to the left is lamentably reductive
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by sen-no-sen » 27/05/14, 20:10

Christophe wrote:A new party? Bayrou tried with the results we know!



Yes but it was Bayrou! : Lol:

The FN now has a boulevard in front of it, the 17 years of Chiracism and Sarkolepsy have done a lot of harm ... then the French turned to the "Gautre" with a replacement character embodied by F. Holland, thinking that the left was going to change something, mistake!

It is therefore logical that the polls will now focus on the FN that has managed to include an altermondialist speech in the conservative sauce that corresponds to the end quite well with the wishes of the French.
On the positive side, we can imagine that the FN will certainly block the Euro-Atlantic Treaty, which is an excellent thing.
Likewise, the omnipotence of the "Europeanist" lobbies should be calming ... but just calming!
Nevertheless we must not dream, the national front is a party of retraction but no decay.
Its medium-term vision is the exit of the euro (pe) (which is not a bad thing in itself) in order to boost employment through internal restructuring.
On the other hand, the vision of this party is somewhat doubtful in the long term:
1) stop immigration: How? With barbed wire?
2) Regain the leadership of France, how? No big plans in the boxes at the FN!
3) Relaunch growth through restructuring, but it seems to you by continuing the extractivism, which is in perfect inadequacy with point n ° 1 ...
4) Abandon the Atlantis-Sionist bloc, which risks taking such nationalist tendencies!

So we can think that the arm wrestling between liberals and sovereignists will just bog us into immobilism ... just the time that the whole system collapses ... and we with!
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by Ahmed » 27/05/14, 20:21

The FN is an opposition party, no government: it therefore does not need a coherent policy, just a set of disparate proposals, likely to please a maximum of discontented, who do not consider it so. near !
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by chatelot16 » 27/05/14, 20:23

sen-no-sen wrote:1) stop immigration: How? With barbed wire?

that's where it's scary ...

how germany took out the head of the m ... when she was crushed after the 14 war ...

whoever is elected to 85ans will not be the dictator

but the decadence that could happen will produce the worst

like the worst of the french revolution robespierre genius who guilotinne everyone to prepare the land has Napoleon, who put europe fire and bleeding ... but whose history has retained only the good side .. we have not even attributed to the revolution the institution made by Napoleon

the current paddle will only end with someone who is out of the ordinary
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by sen-no-sen » 27/05/14, 22:39

Ahmed wrote:The FN is an opposition party, no government: it therefore does not need a coherent policy, just a set of disparate proposals, likely to please a maximum of discontented, who do not consider it so. near !


That's true, but there have been some internal restructurings recently, especially the arrival of newcomers such as Aymeric Chauprade who does not seem to me to be the last of the fools.
I think that the FN can create a coherent government, at least as coherent as the PS or the UMP (sic).
The problem is that if the FN applied its policy there would certainly be "reprisals" from across the Atlantic.
Except I have a huge doubt about the president of the FN as to its ability to fool the Americans!
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by Ahmed » 27/05/14, 22:50

Mwouais ...! Image
Nevertheless, if they want to continue to sell their muddy goods, they have interest in it remains virtual ...
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