Washing machine and water consumption

[wistiti68 @]

Hello,
I have to buy a washing machine, and I want a that is economical in water.
Living alone, a capacity of 4kg is more than enough for me and this is where we find the lowest water consumption per wash cycle.
But by making the ratio consumption / weight one realizes that it is the machines of capacity of 6kg and more which are the most economical. But making machines half full is not very eco-friendly
However, they almost all have variable capacities that adapt consumption to the amount of linen.
I think that these systems have to be more or less effective depending on the brands and the technologies used and I wanted to know what you think of them in general.
Is it better to take a machine to fit my actual quantity of linen or rely on the intelligence of an over-sized machine?


To give a concrete example, among the few machines that I have chosen for the moment, there are:
_ Bosch WL24460FF Class A / A / B and consuming 0.76kW of electricity and 40 liters of water for 4.5kg of linen, ie 0.17kW and 8.89l per kg
And the Bosch WAE20161FF class A + / A / C and consuming 1.19kW and 49 liters for 7kg of linen, ie 0.17kW and only 7 liters per kg.

You would take that to wash only 4 or 5kg of dirty linen per week?

And, besides, are these announced consumptions reliable?

Goods.

[Gregconstruct]

If you never make 7kg of linen, it would be silly to take the superior model! Even if the ratio conso per kilo is more interesting, you will still consume 49 liters instead of 40!

I am not a specialist, but what strikes me is the information you give us.

Now, the best thing is to ask for a reinforcement box !!!

Ding dong ... A prepauser housekeeping department is requested 4 box ... Thank you ...

[wistiti68 @]

Yes but its capacity is variable, so it must adjust its water consumption according to the actual weight of laundry in machine.
The question I ask myself is whether the adjustment is effective or not.
At the same quantity of linen, 4.5kg for example, is the second model likely to consume less than the first?

[Gregconstruct]

To this question, only a pro can answer you! And again, I'm not so sure!

What would be nice, it would be to know the mini and maxi conso of this model and not only the maxi conso (or perhaps even a medium conso ).

[Chatham]

Hello,
I have to buy a washing machine, and I want a that is economical in water.
Living alone, a capacity of 4kg is more than enough for me and this is where we find the lowest water consumption per wash cycle.

I'm in the same situation, but I would not want a low capacity machine: I have an 5.5kg and I never found it too much, especially for some washings (for example, sleeps), The more it is washed and stretched better if the machine is not stuffed ...
I bought a few years ago a Miele 5.5kg to load from the top (prostrate in front of a porthole machine it is not the kind of the house and 1.90m high, the ground is low ...)
Classified A ++, it is of variable capacity (the water is automatically metered according to the load) which is impec when not the maximum load.
You will tell me: Miele it costs candy ... well it depends, if you're not bored for 20 years ... because before I had a Thomson "made in France" upscale which must have broken down about ten times (manufacturing defects (alignment) and design (pulley rigidity) at the level of the drum drive = destruction of belts and pulleys) and after 5 years it was totally rubbish (bearings, hubs, sealing skirt, etc. ...), thanks to a clever self-destruction system (as a technician you can not call it differently, or it is that their engineers are totally incompetent) composed of aluminum hubs set in sandwinch in the stainless steel drum (plastic tank), hubs which have naturally been puffed out by electrolysis despite hard water and have dissolved, disappeared !!! If that's how they plan to keep their customers: franchouillard, but not stupid ...

[jessle]

Hello wistiti68

I am in the same case as you I must change soon lava linen
I'm comparing it's true that it's a jumble between different search comparators.
Just one thing, it seems to me that the energy and water consumption is given for 60 degrees, to have the efficiency of the spin to * A * it needs a spin above 1400tr / min.
It is true that the Miele are well placed but good price
So ; I look for ; I look for ; I look for

[jessle]

For the European label
Here is the text
http://admi.net/eur/loi/leg_euro/fr_300D0045.html
In short it says that consumption measures have been carried out at 60 degree

[Chatham]

Just one thing, it seems to me that the energy and water consumption is given for 60 degrees, to have the efficiency of the spin to * A * it needs a spin above 1400tr / min.

Indeed, it is 60 °, sufficient for even very dirty linen (with organic liquid detergent!), It is no use unless you wash the laundry in a hospital infectious diseases section ... 40 ° is sufficient in most cases. Note that if you do not wash at more than 60 ° no deposits of limescale are formed in the machine and if you want soft linen, Water very limestone, just add 1 / 2 glass of white vinegar in addition to the laundry ...
Spinning at 1400tr and above is if you use a tumble dryer afterwards, otherwise, it's only the electricity and water consumption that counts: my Miele in "A ++" spins at 1200tr (no dryer).
It cost me 950 € (delivered and installed) in 2004 at a small dealer Miele (it is more expensive in big supermarkets like Darty because the brand favors the dealers ...)

[Flytox]

Hello Chatham

I bought a few years ago a Miele
...
You will tell me: Miele it costs candy ... well it depends, if you're not bored for 20 years ... because before I had a Thomson "made in France" upscale which must have broken down about ten times (manufacturing defects (alignment) and design (pulley rigidity) at the level of the drum drive = destruction of belts and pulleys) and after 5 years it was totally rubbish (bearings, hubs, sealing skirt, etc. ...), thanks to a clever self-destruction system (as a technician you can not call it differently, or it is that their engineers are totally incompetent) composed of aluminum hubs set in sandwinch in the stainless steel drum (plastic tank), hubs which have naturally been puffed out by electrolysis despite hard water and have dissolved, disappeared !!! If that's how they plan to keep their customers: franchouillard, but not stupid ...

Buy Miele, that's what everyone advised me, I bought Miele by breaking the piggy bank. At the end of six years she made the sound of a North Atlas taking off at the moment of the spin.

Diagnosis, seal with puffed lip, the hub that took water and therefore dead rolling. I changed the hub, it must be rich ... but it started again 6 years later ... price of the repair superior to the price of a new low-end machine so Miele machine direction trash.

Behind me I bought a low end machine (spinning) Fagor LD411 but it has 10 years and a half and still works without any intervention.

For the filling of the machine, it is better to organize to fill it in full each time, to have a little more linen (Chinese) in stock.

A+

[Gregconstruct]

I vote for Miele !!!

You have to see in the long term! A Miele, you guard 20 years (my parents have kept an 25 years). So, on that time, you will have bought 3 or 4 others from another brand.
Moreover, these machines consume very little.

So they are ultimately economic and ecological in more ways than one!