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global dimming and warming




by Flytox » 24/09/07, 23:23

Bonjour à tous

There was just a report on Arte about the planetary obscuration to see absolutely......

http://www.arte.tv/fr/semaine/244,broad ... =2007.html

The link between aerosol pollution / greenhouse effect / global dimming is very well explained. If what says is confirmed we are even more in the m .... than expected climate change issue. : Evil:
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by Christophe » 25/09/07, 10:22

I only saw the 5 last minute but very interesting.

He will be rebroadcast the 28.09.2007 to 15: 10 for those who are free at this time.

A replay is planned on the 12.10.2007 14: 00 so there are chances that it is viewable on the Plus7 Arte ... We will vera :)
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Re: Global Darkening and Warming




by jean63 » 25/09/07, 16:13

Flytox wrote:Bonjour à tous

There was just a report on Arte about the planetary obscuration to see absolutely......

http://www.arte.tv/fr/semaine/244,broad ... =2007.html

The link between aerosol pollution / greenhouse effect / global dimming is very well explained. If what says is confirmed we are even more in the m .... than expected climate change issue. : Evil:
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It's strange, we saw the same report and same reaction.

How is it that no one has mentioned this subject in this forum ? This show is a 1ère on this subject ...... yet it is known since the 90 years.
We loose the information in small pieces to limit the panic or rather there are many observations or possible scenarios.
There is another event that could put everyone in agreement and this one would not be man-made but would come from the center of the earth in the form of a mega volcano like there would be all 600 000 and that would send so much ash into the atmosphere that the earth would cool down for several years: there would be no need to count either the amount of CO2 or the obscuring particles emitted by human activity. ... : Evil: : Lol:
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by Christophe » 25/09/07, 16:21

Ben I remembered more on the spot but in fact, we had already talked about it: https://www.econologie.com/forums/l-obscurci ... t2200.html

By cons I have no idea pkoi I placed this topic in Humor ...
I'm going to put it in warmth ...

Otherwise I repeat what I said on the Topic of Jean63 on the same show:

Very interesting indeed because it means that in case of shutdown of the industry rejecting particles (therefore based on fossil fuels a priori) so that what will happen one day or another ... the warming would be largely " boosted"...
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by Leo Maximus » 07/10/07, 18:50

jean63 wrote:
Flytox wrote:Bonjour à tous

There was just a report on Arte about the planetary obscuration to see absolutely......

http://www.arte.tv/fr/semaine/244,broad ... =2007.html

The link between aerosol pollution / greenhouse effect / global dimming is very well explained. If what says is confirmed we are even more in the m .... than expected climate change issue. : Evil:
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It's strange, we saw the same report and same reaction.

How is it that no one has mentioned this subject in this forum ? This show is therefore an 1ère on this subject ......yet it is known since the 90 years.We loose the information in small pieces to limit the panic or rather there are many observations or possible scenarios.
There is another event that could put everyone in agreement and this one would not be man-made but would come from the center of the earth in the form of a mega volcano like there would be all 600 000 and that would send so much ash into the atmosphere that the earth would cool down for several years: there would be no need to count either the amount of CO2 or the obscuring particles emitted by human activity. ... : Evil: : Lol:

The American astrophysicist Carl Sagan speaks about it in his book "The call of the stars" (do not confuse with the "Star wars" please) published in France in the early 70 years. 21 page we read: One can seriously wonder if humanity will recognize itself before self-destruction with the help of the technological powers released by its intelligence.. There is an entire chapter on air pollution called "The Ice Age and the Cauldron". 176 page, Carl Sagan writes: There are, in fact, some fifty or sixty different and, for the most part, mutually exclusive theories dealing with glaciations and other major climate changes on the Earth. It is a problem of a substantial intellectual interest. Moreover, an elucidation of climate change processes can have profound practical effects. Indeed, until now, man has often modified the terrestrial environment in a blind and thoughtless way, for his own personal convenience and for short-term economic gain, rather than for the long-term benefit of the inhabitants of the region. planet.
Industrial pollution is brewing huge quantities of foreign matter particles into the atmosphere, which dilute and cover the entire surface of the planet. The smallest particles, sent into the stratosphere, take years to fall. These particles increase the degree of reflectivity of the Earth, and decrease the amount of sunlight reaching the surface of the planet. On the other hand, the burning of fossil fuels, such as coal, oil, and natural gas, increases the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which, by the effect of the absorption of infrared , can raise the earth's temperature.
For Carl Sagan, with air pollution the planet Earth will become either a new planet Venus or a new planet Mars, he does not know which of them, but all life will be gone.
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by Flytox » 07/10/07, 19:38

Hi Maximus Leo

You want to talk about:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera

In the scheme of such an eruption, all that can be done to save the planet will be very illusory. : Evil:

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by Leo Maximus » 08/10/07, 18:07

Flytox wrote:Hi Maximus Leo

You want to talk about:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera

In the scheme of such an eruption, all that can be done to save the planet will be very illusory. : Evil:

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No, that's more : Lol:

The planetary obscuration due to human activities is a phenomenon known for a long time by astronomers for example. At obscuration by dust it is necessary to add obscuration by increase of cloudiness because of the greenhouse effect, there is a phenomenon known to airmen.
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by A2E » 13/10/07, 06:25

I listened yesterday in the late morning a show on France-info with Mr Michel Fort as guest (I forgot the name by posting : Evil:which claimed that with regard to global warming that the games are made and it's irreversible for what was issued but that we could continue the efforts to mitigate the risks! yeah it's not very clear these comments from a European expert on climate! : Evil: : Evil:
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by Ramboman » 13/10/07, 10:38

What's good is that if the climate warms up, it will take less heat : Cheesy: and we will save on heating : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 13/10/07, 10:48

It will depend on the regions ... with "us" it may be the opposite in the long term ... explanations here:
https://www.econologie.com/le-gulf-strea ... -1176.html
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