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10 years to save the climate?




by Christophe » 09/01/07, 10:49

January-February issue of Imagine Magazine has just been published:

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"In ten years it will be too late," says Gore. Is it possible ? We would therefore so little time to save the climate of the Earth? And if this was an exceptional opportunity for a new Enlightenment for Europe? It is energy dependent and which since 50 years, is looking for a great project for the future?

To mark its tenth anniversary, Imagine tomorrow the world has chosen to produce a special issue. And to deepen a single subject, one that seems to dominate all the others today, by its importance both local and global: the essential mobilization in the face of the climate crisis.

The "critical level" not to be exceeded

In barely a generation, our way of perceiving the world has changed. Landing on the moon in 1969, man discovered all the fragility and all the finitude of his house, the Earth, isolated in the interplanetary immensity. We could see how thin the layer of atmosphere surrounding our planet is. However, it is this atmosphere that protects us both from the freezing cold from outside, as well as from the deadly ultraviolet rays coming from the sun. It is this thin layer, barely 30 km thick, working in symbiosis with the entire terrestrial climate system (vegetation, oceans, ice, sea currents ...), which allows life to exist. on our planet.


The following: http://www.imagine-magazine.com/lire/ar ... rticle=607
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by Christophe » 26/05/16, 19:52

1 year left : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by sen-no-sen » 26/05/16, 20:57

Christophe wrote:1 year left : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:


By being completely objective we are forced to arrive at the idea that it is already too late .... From now on, the measures taken will only slow down, at best, the devastating effects of planetary ecocide.
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by Christophe » 26/05/16, 21:01

Yes I think the same ... and for a long time ... except if someone finds a quick fix ...
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by sen-no-sen » 26/05/16, 21:19

Christophe wrote:Yes I think the same ... and for a long time ... except if someone finds a quick fix ...


The solution lies in the problem it seems to me ... : roll:
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by chatelot16 » 26/05/16, 21:59

when you shit in your pants it's too late to tighten your buttocks

it is quite possible that for the CO2 and the heating the damage is already done

rather, we have to organize for the new climate we are going to have, for the new water level ... so give space to live for those who will lose their current place

Reducing CO2 emissions remains useful to prevent it from being worse, but it is not the CGT which burns piles of tires and causes wastage by the paddle that will help us
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by Christophe » 26/05/16, 23:58

chatelot16 wrote:rather, we have to organize for the new climate we are going to have, for the new water level ... so give space to live for those who will lose their current place


It was precisely the new orientation that I wanted to give to the site ... as global warming is inevitable, let's adapt ... finally let's try ...

The battle for global warming has been lost!

Inevitably the balance of power was far too uneven ... but there are things to do for the future ... I just changed the slogan of the site: https://www.econologie.com/ : Cheesy:
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by simplino » 27/05/16, 02:06

The real past climate of the earth makes it possible to specify the future heating with certainty, without the slightest doubtful simulation, like that 52 million years ago formerly in a very recent article of a very detailed nature of the micro-foraminiferous fossils of plankton of this period and of isotopes:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v5 ... 17423.html

14 ° C more in temperature for about more than 1500ppm of CO2 (almost 4 times the current concentration) and no ice at the poles, which are very warm !!

So do a proportional calculation to know our future according to the C02 that we release !!

less precise and older:
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~peter/Res ... 202000.pdf

http://www.es.ucsc.edu/~jzachos/pubs/Za ... ebe_08.pdf

Our future is in the real past climate:


http://www.clim-past.net/7/1459/2011/cp-7-1459-2011.pdf

https://www.ncas.ac.uk/index.php/en/cli ... n-the-past

We have already heated a good degree with our current CO2 and even if we stop CO2 at its current value, the temperature would continue to rise for centuries, as a result of the thermal inertia of the oceans over a millennium (the thermal capacity of the atmosphere corresponds to less than 10m from the oceans, which are around 4000m on average)

http://www.victoria.ac.nz/antarctic/abo ... limate.pdf

We will return to the climate of 34 million years ago, no ice at the poles and seas 70m higher in a millennium.
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by Christophe » 27/05/16, 09:24

simplino wrote:14 ° C more in temperature for about more than 1500ppm of CO2 (almost 4 times the current concentration) and no ice at the poles, which are very warm !!


+ 14 ° ??? As long as that?
I thought it would not exceed +5 or + 6 ° ... and it's already monstrous ...

+ 14 ° it is the end of agriculture in our latitudes therefore billions of deaths!

4 times the current CO2 concentration is estimated for when ??
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by Ahmed » 27/05/16, 10:02

The battle for global warming has been lost!

Just like that of its limitation will be: inertia of the climate would require to anticipate widely the measures to be taken, or anticipation is what is unimaginable from the point of view of collective functioning ...
Climate change is only one of the consequences of current mistakes and probably the least to be feared since it would, in any event, have globally disastrous effects only long after others, more immediate and to which it serves as a screen. This focus is perfectly indicative of our collective blindness: we prefer a slightly delayed danger, against which we are powerless (because who should start first?) Than those, more difficult to understand and demanding much more radical revisions.
It is true that the fight against CD gives pride of place to fruitful enterprises of "green" innovations which, under the pretext of avoiding its consequences (of CD), will strengthen its causes.

The layout (sic) of the RC promises us beautiful speeches, very beautiful achievements, in the background of continuity ...
The motto of the time should be these words from the film by Visconti, in "Cheetah":" Everything must change, so that nothing changes ».
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