The surface of Greenland has melted almost completely this summer

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The surface of Greenland has melted almost completely this summer




by Christophe » 26/07/12, 13:02

What the "experts" thought would happen a few years ago in a few decades just happened in July: 97% of the surface ice of Greenland...evidence of the rush of climate change? Maybe ...

Linked to the month of July 2012 particularly rotten weather level in Northern Europe? Maybe too ...

In any case ... it fucks the balls ... for the rest ... and there is not too much! (sorry for the word game at 2 balls) ...

Map of 8 and 12 July 2012: in 4 day the font changes from 40% to 97% ...

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Greenland icecap thawed at 97% in July

The frozen ground of Greenland melted in July on an extent never reached in more than thirty years of satellite observation. According to data from three satellites analyzed by the US Space Agency (NASA) and university scientists, about 97% of the surface icecap had thawed in mid-July.


The situation is so unexpected that researchers initially thought it was wrong. "It's so unprecedented that I first wondered about the result: was it real or was it due to a data error?", Explains Son Nghiem, a NASA expert. He said he noticed the disappearance of most of the Greenland ice on July 12 by analyzing data from a first satellite. Results from the other two satellites confirmed this discovery. Satellite maps of the melt show that the ice sheet had melted 40% by July 8 and 97% four days later.

A NATURAL PHENOMENON?

During the summer, on average half of Greenland's ice surface naturally melts. Usually, most of the water from this melt freezes quickly aloft or is trapped by ice in coastal areas, while the rest drains into the ocean. "But this year, the magnitude of the surface or near surface melt has increased dramatically," says NASA. Over the past three decades, the largest melt detected by satellite did not exceed 55% of the area, says the BBC.

Researchers must now determine whether this event, which coincides with unusually strong warm air pressure over Greenland, will contribute to rising sea levels. NASA said that even the highest point of the ice cap, more than 3 kilometers above sea level, was showing signs of thawing.

According to glaciologist Lora Koenig, this type of melting occurs every 150 years on average, and it is difficult to determine whether it is the result of a rare, but natural phenomenon, or of man-made global warming. "The last one having taken place in 1889, this event is well on the agenda", she explains. "But if we continue to see this type of melting over the next few years, it will be scary."

ABNORMALLY FREQUENT BREAKS

These results were known a few days after a huge block of ice twice the size of Paris or Manhattan broke off from a Greenland glacier. This is the second time in two years that an iceberg has come off the Pertermann Glacier. For climate scientists, it is the rising temperatures of the oceans that are implicated in these glacier breaks that have become abnormally frequent.

"It's dramatic, it's disturbing. We have data for 150 years and we are seeing changes that we have never seen before. This is one of the proofs that Greenland is changing very quickly. ", explains Andreas Muenchow, professor at the University of Delaware.

The Greenland icecap, whose melting contributes to rising sea levels, is more sensitive to global warming than has been accepted so far, suggests a study published in the March issue 11 Nature Climate Change.

THE SECOND RETENTION OF WATER OF THE WORLD

Previous studies have established a warming threshold of + 3,1 ° C compared to the pre-industrial era beyond which the ice that covers Greenland could have completely melted in millennia. This new study, based on numerical simulations, lowers this threshold to + 1,6 ° C (in a range from + 0,8 ° C to + 3,2 ° C), knowing that the planet has already warmed by 0,8 ° C since mid-eighteenth century.

The time taken for a total melting of the Greenland ice sheet (or ice sheet) depends on the duration and extent of the exceeding of this threshold: it could have disappeared in two thousand years in the event of a warming of + 8 ° C, but in fifty thousand years in case of rise contained at + 2 ° C, according to researchers at the Potsdam Institute (PIK) and the Complutense University of Madrid. Limiting the rise to 2 ° C is the goal set by the international community but, in view of current greenhouse gas emissions, the world seems to be on a trajectory of + 3 to + 4 ° C.

Greenland constitutes, after Antarctica, the second largest water reservoir on Earth. A significant melting of the icecap, which covers about 80% of the territory, could contribute to a rise of several meters of the sea level and affect the lives of millions of people, remind the authors.


Source: http://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2 ... _3244.html

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Edit title Edit: The ice of Greenland has melted almost completely this summer! en The surface of Greenland has melted almost completely this summer
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by highfly-addict » 26/07/12, 15:16

The title of this subject is false, just as the wording of the title of this short story is misleading ....
NO, Greenland ice has not melted almost completely this summer!

But 97% of the surface of the cap began to melt, slight shade ...

FYI, the average thickness of said cap is memory around 2000 m ... So a few thousand years minimum are physically necessary to melt this small ice cube.
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by Christophe » 26/07/12, 16:15

It's not wrong, but I clearly specified and in bold "surface ice" at the very beginning of the subject ... I nevertheless adapted the title!

Remains to know from how many mm of liquid water NASA detects the melting?

1, 10, 20mm or more?

Only a few years ago, we were surprised to see a little liquid water in Greenland in summer, so we should not minimize the facts ... because they are disturbing!
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by highfly-addict » 26/07/12, 17:09

Far be it from me to minimize these facts, I just wish we called a cat a cat.

Worrying? That yes then! But I bet that this news will not affect the behavior and aspirations of everyone.

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by sen-no-sen » 26/07/12, 17:51

Anthropic or not anthropic, that is the question!
In any case, it does not bode well for our future ... on the other hand, oil tankers are already starting to rub their hands!
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by Christophe » 26/07/12, 18:00

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by RV-P » 02/10/12, 07:56

- I add my grain of salt (it prevents the meat from rotting : Cheesy: !)!
- Perhaps we should find out about the 900 period at 1300 after Christ, when Eric the Red discovered Greenland and why he called it so (green earth)! Temperatures were such at that time thatthere were vineyards in England (names like Vineyhard ...)! Was there a lot of CO2 in the atmosphere at that time (Unless there were so many animals breathing and petping on the roads of France ... : Wink: )?
- We "fix" on the CO2 produced by man, but we forget:
* That breathing and farting : Wink: , man and animals also reject CO2, and maybe a lot more than cars!
* Volcanoes : they emit so much CO2 during an eruption that the man next door, burning everything he can, does not even reach them "at the ankle"! And the eruptions of some Icelandic volcanoes did not help anything on that side! But they also rejected sulfur derivatives which, for their part, tend to COOL (mirror effect)! That's why summers have been so bad for a couple of years in Europe!
* That the CO2 still weighs 2g / l while the air weighs only 1g3 / l! Why do glaciers perched at more than 2000m altitude also melt?
* Why the ice caps of Mars do they also shrink? Would "our" CO2 have crossed space to Mars, where the atmosphere is practically made up only of this gas? Not serious !
- Something else : while coal was being burned "by the ton" in steam locomotives (which have all but disappeared today!), the climate was COOLING! And today, where we desperately want to reduce our CO2 releases, the climate warms up! Is there nothing else on the side of the fireball that serves us as the sun?
- So STOP making a fixation on the CO2! As long as our world subsists (and it could be that it does not last long, with the sin of man ...), there will ALWAYS be CO2 on Earth and against that, we can not help it! In addition, a part of life on Earth needs this gas: PLANTS! Try a little to put a plant under the hood by eliminating all the CO2 from the atmosphere where she lives: she DIES!
- What more are we made of? CARBON HYDRATES! All mammals of this Earth and even fish and insects are made of this material. Therefore, as long as there is a breath of life on this planet, there will always be some, CO2!
- @ +!
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by Janic » 02/10/12, 08:09

What is important is not so much the CO2 as the awareness that it causes in humans on its destructive and therefore suicidal behavior.
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by RV-P » 02/10/12, 08:18

- Well, you know, Janic: to change the bad, tortuous, wicked, hopelessly clever ... heart of the man, it would really be a miracle! And it will only happen when this world passes ...
- According to you, for selective sorting, for example, why do we always "tap" on the "consumer" and do not "see" the big manufacturers who insist on producing over-packaging plastic / paper / aluminum, eh? Just that, it "cuts" me the urge to sort, which I no longer do!
- Let's do as in America: let's go back to paper packaging!
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by Christophe » 02/10/12, 10:24

A little off topic there no?

RV-P wrote:- Let's do as in America: let's go back to paper packaging!


Rich idea: it will certainly "save the world" :D : Cheesy:
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