Poverty in France and the RSA, figures?

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 29/08/08, 13:14

For you, what is poverty? From how many euros of income per person can one be considered "poor"?

Because yesterday in a report on the JT of FR2 they said that the RSA was going to reduce poverty in France.

By reducing poverty from 7 households to 000 households!

You read that correctly, they said: FIREPLACES ... so I find these huge numbers !! That would mean that poverty affects nearly 1 in 2 French ??? So with our GSM, Plasma and broadband connection we are all poor? : Cheesy:

The report in question is here: http://jt.france2.fr/13h/

LAVAL / SARKOZY ANNOUNCEMENT RSA 13h02m27s

delnoram · by **delnoram** » 29/08/08, 13:53

Christophe wrote:For you, what is poverty? From how many euros of income per person can one be considered "poor"?

They in any case consider it like this:

In France, an individual can be considered "poor" when his monthly income is less than 681 euros ...

http://www.inegalites.fr/spip.php?article343

Christine · by **Christine** » 29/08/08, 14:28

Eurostat takes as limit 817 euros after taxes and social benefits (according to my calculations)

On the other hand, according to Eurostat, there were 25 households in France in 675.

... which would make almost 1 in 4 French households

jonule · by **jonule** » 29/08/08, 14:46

1/4 of the poor in France ... but what are the unions doing ?! : roll:

For me the whole thing is not the pay, it is what remains at the end of the month when we have paid the obligatory costs, rent, tax, travel insurance, oil, heating, electricity, etc ... without the use of comfort, the strict minimum. not to mention the fines of course.

finally, so "they" of the JT said that they were going to put 2 million RMI to the RSA, without their good will, by being obliged to accept any job, like that of going to work in a

...

Christine · by **Christine** » 29/08/08, 14:52

Hop, I used my almighty moderator power to censor.

No Jonule, you will not put nuclear in this discussion.

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 29/08/08, 14:53

25 Million households ... ah that's more than I thought ...
Ah, I confuse households and housing, I am stupid

I am trying to recover the 2 reports on the RSA in question.

jonule · by **jonule** » 29/08/08, 15:04

? but I had marked that "central"! : Cheesy:

purchase what! : Cheesy:

Okay, "in a McDonald's" is better?

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 29/08/08, 15:23

Here is the report in question: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=86tvWtLF6A8

Christine · by **Christine** » 29/08/08, 15:47

Christine wrote:... which would make almost 1 in 4 French households

Yes, but I found a Eurostat table "Risk of poverty rate after social transfers" which gives 13% of the population in 2006
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/tgm/re ... anguage=fr

It doesn't fit

or it is exaggeration of the comm 'service of Sarko and it would not be 7 million households but about 3,3 million

well, let's say that: "a lot of people don't have a lot of money"; at least we are sure not to be wrong : Mrgreen:

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 29/08/08, 15:51

From sarko? What interest to inflate these figures, on the contrary it is not to its advantage to say that France is impoverished.

I think more simply that it is a mistake of the journalists ... they quite simply confused homes and people...

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Poverty in France and the RSA, figures?