Luxembourg: Amazon charge VAT to 1.6% ??

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Luxembourg: Amazon charge VAT to 1.6% ??




by Christophe » 11/05/16, 09:48

Yesterday I made an order on Amazon.fr (it's been years since I had not made one ...), in the order summary, I was struck to find a rate of VAT downright low: 5.62 € VAT for 353.74 € HT. : Shock:

These are computer hardware and a DVD box. Delivery in France.
Logically Amazon should pay VAT in France (because they sell by mail over 100 € per year ... even per day I presume!) Therefore rates of 000% or 20% (possibly for the DVD box?)

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Good if we calculate correctly, that makes a VAT rate of 1.59% ... ???

Amazon Europe is registered in Luxembourg, as everyone knows ...

But this 1.59% (1.6% ???) does not correspond to any legal rate in force in France or Luxembourg, namely: http://www.aed.public.lu/tva/taux/

Currently, four rates apply to G.-D. from Luxembourg:

a standard rate of 17% for taxable transactions other than those referred to below;

a reduced rate of 8% for the supply of goods and the provision of services as well as for intra-Community acquisitions and imports of goods, such as these goods and services are designated in Annex A to the VAT law of 12.02.1979 as well as those referred to in Article 40,
paragraph 1, point 1 °, under b) and c);

a super-reduced rate of 3% for the supply of goods and the provision of services as well as for intra-Community acquisitions and imports of goods, such as these goods and services are designated in Annex B to the VAT law of 12.02.1979 ;

an intermediate rate of 14% for the supply of goods and the provision of services as well as for intra-Community acquisitions and imports of goods, such as these goods and services are designated in annex C of the VAT law of 12.02.1979.


Note the name "super reduced" a little funny :D

What can this 1.6% rate mean?

Option a) Amazon, in addition to having negotiated its tax base (a well-known practice in Luxembourg when a large company settles there) has successfully negotiated an "ultra-reduced rate especially for Amazon" ???? If so, that would be crazy ... and above all completely anti-competitive for all other companies : Shock: : Shock: : Shock:

Option b) Certain products (this basket counted ten) of my order would be sold HT? (I would see this on the invoice (s), I don't have access to it yet ...).

But it is not a professional invoice and I did not indicate my VAT number so no reason for it to be sold HT ...

All these products are "Sold by X and shipped by Amazon" and even if X is outside the EU, logically I should have paid VAT in the corresponding countries as the reminder: http://europa.eu/youreurope/business/va ... dex_fr.htm

Non-EU countries
Selling

If you sell goods to customers outside the EU, you do not have to charge VAT, but you can deduct the amount paid from your corresponding expenses (goods and services acquired to make these sales).
Buying

If you buy goods for your business from a supplier established outside the EU, you should in principle pay VAT at the point of import (and deduct it in your next tax declaration if sales are subject to VAT).


So, yes, maybe these countries in question (China ...) have a VAT rate of 0% ???

Option c) A bug?

Option d) ???

I will see more clearly with the invoices ... and will not fail to give you the continuation ...

Attention if option a) is the right one, this subject could bring me some troubles economy-finance / luxleaks-Antoine-deltour-in-jail-t14701.html : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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by Capt_Maloche » 11/05/16, 10:35

They had to grease some legs to get there :?

What did you order from Amazon? :D
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by Christophe » 11/05/16, 10:38

Capt_Maloche wrote:They had to grease some legs to get there :?


If it is a) yes ... still not force grease, just negotiate, see the remark of izentrop here: economy-finance / luxleaks-Antoine-deltour-in-jail-t14701.html # p303113

But wait until I receive the invoices ...

Capt_Maloche wrote:What did you order from Amazon? :D


Many good things : Cheesy: You already have the answer in MP : Cheesy:
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by izentrop » 11/05/16, 15:14

Hello,
But what do the tax services do :?:
I recently ordered and received from an English supplier, delivered by ama * on. Having not ordered from them for a long time, your post highlighted to me that the invoice is no longer systematic. So I made the request to the seller.
The rest, the next few days
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by Christophe » 11/05/16, 15:43

izentrop wrote:Hello,
But what do the tax services do :?:


Well ... they condemn the whistleblowers: economy-finance / luxleaks-Antoine-deltour-in-jail-t14701.html : roll:
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by izentrop » 11/05/16, 16:44

VAT is to 20% on my bill.
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by Christophe » 11/05/16, 17:31

Yes that's what the law requires ... as you live in France ..
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by chatelot16 » 12/05/16, 21:41

in France there are only artisans and small businesses who pay full tax ... the multinational knows how to cheat legally

it's collective suicide!

as long as the state lets foreigners cheat and taxes the French excessively we will sink into unemployment
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by Christophe » 22/05/16, 17:58

I received most of the product ordered, there are 3 pending ...

I only received one invoice (French VAT) among the ten products ordered!

Do you think I have to bitch to ask for them? You're wasting your breath...

We all know "what" is behind Amazon and eBay ... while waiting for small (e-) traders (like the econological store) and who pay their taxes, charges and taxes ... are all dying ...

Thank you bands of assholes!

(when I say assholes, it's not necessarily that the guys from Amazon but also civil servants and politicians who leave these possible economic injustices ...)

Not only does Amazon not pay VAT and therefore promotes VAT fraud, but it also does not pay taxes ...

All this makes me well stack when we see how the little galleys ...
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by chatelot16 » 22/05/16, 21:27

well yes it's cacastrophiquue!

France crushes tax on Franco-French workers ... and lets multinational companies do what they want

it even happens that when the same item is available by amazon or by a french site the delivery is faster and free by amazon ... many professional sellers sell more by amazon than by their site

you have to take advantage of the system ... it wouldn't shock me that econology also sells by amazon if it allows it to earn better
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