Ayrault letter Depardieu (French tax)

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Ayrault letter Depardieu (French tax)




by Christophe » 16/12/12, 20:00

Everything is in the title! Bravo Gérard!

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Gérard is right and the politicians, for the most part do not care about their people, they are pushy, creuvards... and from a certain level they have all been involved in "business"!

I particularly like the 6th paragraph ...

(on the other hand I thought it was limited to the big max at 70% in France? How does it arrive at 85% of taxation?)

ps: the house he bought in Belgium is ... a dump ... would surprise me that he spends a lot of time there ...
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by the middle » 17/12/12, 08:06

For my part, 75 or 85% is too much.
There is money to be saved otherwise.
Don't touch the grisbi!
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by Remundo » 17/12/12, 10:37

Christophe wrote:(on the other hand I thought it was limited to the big max at 70% in France? How does it arrive at 85% of taxation?)

Very high income for income tax pays around 45%

But these are not the only taxes they pay. The VAT on their purchase can represent between 0 and 20% of their income to the extent that they would spend nothing / everything on everyday consumer products.

They also have heavy charges in property taxes and taxes for local communities because in general, they own a lot of real estate.

They also have the ISF. ISF which affects the property, lump sum to be paid as a% of the estimated value, while this property is not necessarily remunerative. For example an uninhabited island by the sea, a luxury house that is not rented ...

For example Depardieu owns a majestic apartment in Paris for 10 M €, a wine estate in the Bordeaux region ... who have to make it hard on ISF without earning him a lot of money each year.

The 50% tax shield being a superb gas plant which takes into account "this and not always that", often with a delayed effect of one year for the "state reimbursement check", the very high incomes (understand in millions €, even tens) pay without problem a tax of the order of 85% of their income in France, this can sometimes even go beyond 100%.
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by elephant » 17/12/12, 10:46

Christopher said:

the house he bought in Belgium is ... a dump ...


Do not worry: we have great renovation companies, super cheap, who work either in black or with workers from eastern countries, social laws at home : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by bobono » 17/12/12, 11:21

Pay 75% of your income well, but be forced to sell part of your capital for the sake of wealth tax does not pass.
Result the big owners of Bordeaux sells to the Chinese who they will know how to grow the good bottles by taking advantage of the name and a very large market.

Wealth tax is the worst thing for France, it is for this reason that everyone else does not apply it.
The second big problem for our Country is unionism which defends its officials is their interests in the very short term.

Sarko was not up to par and disappointed me, but there is still a good thing like the self-employed status which allows you to legalize activities that used to be the domain of (black).
Blizzard as Christophe IS gone to Belgium not to pay his taxes in France there has been no noise, now that the left is in business will he come back in doubt ..
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by Tagor » 17/12/12, 11:22

Remundo wrote:a wine estate in the Bordeaux region ... who must make it hard on ISF


vines and forests are not included in the calculation of the wealth tax
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by Christophe » 17/12/12, 11:35

elephant wrote:Christopher said:

the house he bought in Belgium is ... a dump ...


Do not worry: we have great renovation companies, super cheap, who work either in black or with workers from eastern countries, social laws at home : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:


Well to go from this Hôtel Chambon: http://bigbrowser.blog.lemonde.fr/2012/ ... -millions/

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... to this: Photo of Néchin de Depardieu's house

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http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/1527/People/ ... chin.dhtml

Well, there will be some Polish !! : Mrgreen:

There won't be much left in Belgium, I tell you! It's just a blanket this house!

Attack of the world for Gérard: http://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/201 ... _3232.html

No laughing, the real shabby are the policies that have made that 100% of income tax is absorbed only by interest on public debt in France! therefore paid for nothing except to enrich the big creditors of the States ....

Too bad Gérard did not use this argument in his letter ... seen as we talk about it, it might have opened some sleeping consciousnesses ...
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by Remundo » 17/12/12, 11:46

Tagor wrote:
Remundo wrote:a wine estate in the Bordeaux region ... who must make it hard on ISF


vines and forests are not included in the calculation of the wealth tax

They are discounted, but they fit in. It is also necessary to have certain "management plans" managed by State pharmacies (ONF, CRPF, DDAF ...) to obtain reductions in forests.

For a wine estate, everything is not outside ISF, especially the "castle" ... For the rest (the land), you need a rental with uninteresting scales of 18 years to claim 75% exemption.

Depardieu sells its splendid private mansion in Paris:
For 50 M € (I made a mistake earlier)

Surely because he judges it expensive in ISF / land.

The house he bought in Belgium is very ugly next door. I have the impression that he does ... the actor :P
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by Christophe » 17/12/12, 12:12

Remundo wrote:The house he bought in Belgium is very ugly next door. I have the impression that he does ... the actor :P


Yes that's what I just said! But beware, in Belgium there are often very ugly facades but very nice interiors ... good there on that of Néchin I still have doubts lol ...

Now he could very well have bought something like this:

http://www.immoweb.be/fr/Buy.Estate.cfm ... ry&xpage=1

http://www.immoweb.be/fr/Buy.Estate.cfm ... ry&xpage=1

http://www.immoweb.be/fr/Buy.Estate.cfm ... ry&xpage=1

http://www.immoweb.be/fr/Buy.Estate.cfm ... ry&xpage=1

http://www.immoweb.be/fr/Buy.Estate.cfm ... y&xpage=10

http://www.immoweb.be/fr/Buy.Estate.cfm ... y&xpage=10

:?:
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by Obamot » 17/12/12, 12:24

At the same time it is just as true that France needs to fill up its coffers.

But it is neither the government's business to know if someone is going to settle elsewhere, as long as it is legal.

No more than that interests us so much that someone who has already won almost 300 million euros comes to bring him relatively indecently in the media ...

Already because on the "moral" level, we are slow to see the implementation of the positions taken by the Hollande government. And once we have already passed the milestone of ten million euros, we no longer live in the same anguish as those who struggle to make ends meet ...!

Let us come to the media: for example, were they so worried about how much Mr. Mittal earned and how much tax he paid in France during the negotiations with De Montebourg? (Based in London, it is the fifth largest fortune in the world.)

Depardieu rightly on the fact that one cannot tax creation (whether artistic or not) like that without consequence, since everything goes through it and that it is already unloved in our current world .

We are still waiting for example:
- real protection of works created,
on the other hand, a differentiated taxation of the "parasitic" sector of the economy (the tertiary sector) and which comes to use this creation without paying any fees or royalties, first and foremost:
- the taxation of financial transactions ...
and at the other end:
- the bosses who plunder the gray matter of their collaborators, often without consideration other than their modest wages.

There it is not hundreds of scattered millions, but thousands of billions.
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