Diesel Taxation

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Diesel Taxation




by bamboo » 03/10/11, 09:58

Europe could tax diesel. 8)
Since the states don't do it, someone else has to do it ...

http://www.leblogauto.com/2011/10/coup-de-pompe-pour-le-diesel-180euros-le-litre-des-demain.html
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by yannko » 03/10/11, 19:41

Nickel, now that 90% of the European fleet is dieselized, they have done well : Cheesy: , like that hop we pass the direct liter to 2 Euros without waiting for the tankers please : Shock: , too bad we will switch faster to electric, as long as the photovoltaic becomes less expensive than the fossil (we come slowly ...).
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by bamboo » 07/10/11, 09:08

yannko wrote:Nickel, now that 90% of the European fleet is dieselized, they have done well : Cheesy: , like that hop we pass the direct liter to 2 Euros without waiting for the tankers please : Shock: , too bad we will switch faster to electric, as long as the photovoltaic becomes less expensive than the fossil (we come slowly ...).

Any increase is good for the planet and for countries that do not have oil: It encourages a reduction in consumption and therefore it improves the trade balance.
(diesel, petrol, fuel oil, electricity ...)
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by Christophe » 07/10/11, 09:28



Thank you I missed it!

For the rest (should it be taxed or not, pollution of fine particles ...) the debate has already largely been done back and forth, so I refer you to: https://www.econologie.com/forums/search.php (I'm too lazy to look there ...).

Start by reading (the absolute values ​​are no longer correct but the proportions are still valid ...): https://www.econologie.com/taxation-fisc ... -3471.html

Analysis

a) As the 2ieme diagram shows, it is quite easy to simplify the cost of a liter of fuel in the following way:
- 6/10 of taxes therefore benefits for the State
- 2/10 of turnover for oil companies
- 2/10 of royalty therefore profits for the producing country


The distinction between profits and turnover is important: the oil companies ultimately earn much less on a liter sold than the other 2 parties.

b) The technology having its limits to reduce the expenses of the oil companies, to increase their profits, the latter must either sell more oil, or "nibble" on the shares of the 2 others.

Taxation is difficult to avoid legally, by cons do not pay the fee of the producing country is possible.

This explains the many relationships between our politicians and the leaders of producing countries in order to obtain concessions for the national companies.

For example, TOTAL has an oil field in Iraq equivalent to the reserves contained in US territory. Let's not even talk about Africa where where there is oil (like any other wealth), conflicts suddenly appear ... Conflicts which allow certain companies to take advantage of resources in a "profitable" climate.

c) An increase in the price of crude is largely favorable to the profits of oil companies when they do not have to pay the producing country. The Elf affair showed that not all tankers were "counted" for this obvious reason. The record profits of the oil companies in 2005 and 2006 would tend to prove that a large part of their oil is not paid to producing countries!

d) An increase in the price of crude is favorable to tax revenues since the VAT is proportional to the price of the product excluding tax.

Conclusion: oil a miracle product for economists

Our dependence on oil is such that, being unable to do without it because the technology does not exist (at least for transport), a constant increase in prices will not be significant of a fall in demand. This is unlike all the other products on the market.
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by moinsdewatt » 16/10/11, 12:24

Christophe wrote: For example, TOTAL has an oil field in Iraq equivalent to the reserves contained in the territory of the USA.


It is very badly said.

Total does not have any. It is the Iraqi state the owner. And it is Iraq which owns the barrels.

Total only performs a field development service and is paid just $ 2 per barrel produced. This is what was negotiated following the call for tenders two years ago.

To learn more about this subject read this thread: http://www.oleocene.org/phpBB3/viewtopi ... 65#p260865
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