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by jonule » 02/07/08, 09:54

"As you all know" (otherwise you would react, I suspect), the new nuclear law passed in 2006 on the transparency of defense secrecy was recently amended by Mr. Borloo not long ago:

> before in the Hague Areva EdF took the waste from other countries against a large sum (for what?) and returned them after treatment.
> today, the law stipulates that France has the right to keep them, to pocket even more money!
what will she do with it? simple, bury them! where ? well in the ground of course, but to have the list of the 3115 communes concerned and interested, it is necessary to ask the ANDRA; knowing that normally "in full transparency" they are supposed to communicate this list.

> Want to know if where you have built or are you going to build there will be a landfill?

To be constantly informed about nuclear activities which are not transparent, I invite you to subscribe to the news mailing list, via the site:
http://www.sortirdunucleaire.org/
site gathering more than 800 diverse associations of citizens determined not to let themselves be done without saying anything at least ...
the card is available on their site.

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by jonule » 02/07/08, 09:57

follow the guide :


get out of nuclear wrote:
ANDRA turns a deaf ear: let's step up the action!

ANDRA continues to refuse to communicate the list of 3115 municipalities approached for the establishment of a radioactive waste landfill site. Where is the famous “transparency”?

ACTION 1:
We are very numerous to request this list by continuing to call the ANDRA toll-free number at 0 800 000 150.
It is also important to call the following numbers: 01 46 11 80 00 and 01 46 11 82 94.
We renew our calls regularly.

ACTION 2:
Do you live (or own a residence) in one of the 20 departments (*) concerned?

(*) Ardennes, Aube, Aveyron, Cher, Eure, Indre, Lot, Marne, Haute-Marne, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Meuse, Moselle, Nord, Oise, Pas-de-Calais, Bas-Rhin, Seine-Maritime , Somme, Tarn-et-Garonne, Vosges

Call the mayor of your town by mail (model letter as an attachment or downloadable from http://www.sortirdunucleaire.org/dossiers/alerte-dechets :

- to express your opposition to this project,
- to find out if your municipality has been solicited for the establishment of this site,
- to find out the position of your mayor in relation to this project and the way in which he intends (or not) to consult his constituents,
- to encourage him to demand the publication of the list of 3115 municipalities concerned (which Andra refuses to reveal), by a telephone call to the toll-free number set up for mayors (0 800 000 150).


Send us a copy of your mayor's response, by mail to: "Sortir du nuclear" network, 9 rue Dumenge, 69317 Lyon Cedex 04, or by email to: contact@sortirdunucleaire.fr

By centralizing this information, we will be able to know on the one hand the municipalities concerned, on the other hand the position of elected officials vis-à-vis the project, and make this information public.

Make your approach known to the local media.

We thank you in advance for your involvement and support.
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by Christophe » 02/07/08, 10:00

You're boring Jonule ...

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by jonule » 02/07/08, 14:37

??
why am i boring?
who gives the info if not?

I find it strange that people are interested in alternative NRJs but do not fight fossil NRJs enough, especially when it comes to burying nuclear waste in the ground coming from all countries ... how could we leave do that ?

> aren't you interested in knowing if your town is not going to be used as a trash can?

you do not live in france maybe?

your country already exports its waste? level traceability what does it give?
where does your uranium and plutonium come from, and where are they going next? can you only say
do you really care?

out of curiosity of course ;-)
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by jonule » 04/07/08, 13:57

confidence in the transparency of the nuclear industry ...

the 3 July 2008
Scandal with Tricastin: more than 770 tons
radioactive waste buried for more
30 years on the ground, illegally!
CRIIRAD requests the publication of a comprehensive report, the resumption
of all the waste and the full decontamination of the site.


The Tricastin nuclear site is located at the limit of the departments of Drôme and Vaucluse, on the territory of the municipalities of Pierrelatte, St-Paul-3-Châteaux and Bollène. It includes 8 Basic Nuclear Installations (INB1), several Classified Installations for the Protection of the Environment (ICPE) as well as the Secret Basic Nuclear Installation (INB-S) of CEA-Cogéma.

On several occasions in the past, the CRIIRAD laboratory has highlighted abnormally high levels of irradiation at the edge of the Tricastin nuclear site. These checks revealed shortcomings in the application of radiation protection rules and raised important questions about the exposure of workers working inside the site.
The most radiating levels were identified on the west side, at the barrel park and the AREVA - SAUR entry portal: around 400 shots per second (c / s) recorded at DG5 for background noise normal about 60 c / s.

Another abnormal area, although less marked (130 to 140 c / s), was spotted on the east side, north of the EDF and COMURHEX facilities, to the right of a sort of mound. This mound is located within the perimeter of the BNI-S owned by the CEA and the operator Cogéma (AREVA NC).

The documentary research that we have carried out leads us to consider that the radiation detectable on the farmers' path could come from the mound itself. Indeed, it is not a simple mound of earth but a pile of radioactive and chemical waste directly buried in the ground!

ANDRA INVENTORY ANALYSIS

The National Agency for Radioactive Waste (ANDRA) has published since 1993 a
national inventory of radioactive waste. The first inventory does not mention
neither the mound, nor even the existence of waste. Inventories published from 1994
to 1999 devoted a sheet to radioactive waste from the BNI S CEA-COGEMA
Pierrelatte (file referenced RHO 28, then RHO 28B). They are presented as
“operating and sanitation waste from installations
enrichment of uranium by gas diffusion and chemical treatments ”.
It would be “waste gas diffusion barriers, fluorides, sludges
chromic "for a total activity of 42 GBq and" miscellaneous waste, rubble.
»For 8 GBq. The card indicates that it is a storage but does not make any
allusion to the fact that the waste is not in built modules but has been
directly buried in the ground.

It was not until the 20022 ANDRA inventoryXNUMX that we learned that waste from
installations for the production of enriched uranium for military use have been "
buried between 1969 and 1976 in a mound of earth with a volume of about 15
m3 ". The earth, which covers the waste, hides it from view but not from
the deleterious action of meteorite waters. It is a gross violation
storage rules which must ensure that waste is isolated from
the environment and that it is possible to control them and, if necessary, to
recondition. These practices are shocking even for the beginning of the years
70.

It cannot be excluded that ANDRA wished to conceal the storage conditions
scandalous of this waste but the most likely is that it only
pass on the information that the operator is willing to communicate. CRIIRAD has
was able to note on several files that the National Agency does not carry out any
control in the field and that critical analysis of operators' data
is very insufficient3. The information contained in the inventories must
therefore be viewed with great hindsight.

CONTENT OF TUMULUS

If we refer to the most recent ANDRA inventory (published in 2006, with a
updated to May 2005 for file RHO-43), the accumulation of waste
radioactive would consist of:

- radioactive waste from 4 military isotope separation factories
(low, medium, high and very high corresponding military factories
respectively to uranium weakly, moderately, strongly and very
highly enriched, more than 90% uranium 235). This waste would
made up of diffusion barriers for a total mass of 760 tonnes.
ANDRA gives no details or on the composition of the waste, in particular
on their uranium-235 content, or on the possible risks of criticality;

- TFA-VL category waste - very low activity but long life (in
the occurrence, very, very long) - made up of conditioning filters (46
m3) and fluorites ((14 m000);

- chemically toxic waste (especially trivalent chromium)
presented as free of radioactivity (but without quantified precision, in
particularly on control protocols or on detection thresholds).
ANDRA indicates that this is sludge from the wastewater treatment plant
effluents, without specifying the volume or tonnage spilled on the mound.


CRIIRAD'S REQUESTS

Based on investigations conducted by his laboratory and messages
alarming that have reached it, CRIIRAD asks:

1- the communication of a detailed state of the structure of the tumulus and waste
radioactive and chemical it contains: description of the initial location
(presence of a protective slab, a drainage network. or total absence
to protect the water table against water infiltration? heap of
from ground level or deep? etc.); spill history:
dates, volumes, masses, nature of packaging (if any), masses of
earth used for covering, etc.

2- the recovery of waste, their characterization, their possible repackaging
(checking the tightness of the barrels, their absence of contamination
external) and their transfer to warehousing or storage facilities
ad hoc ;

3- the radiological and chemical control of the soil in which the barrels and
other waste has been buried and, if necessary, packaging and
storage of contaminated volumes;

4- authorization to access the site in order to carry out radiometric measurements
and spectrometric at the level of the tumulus and to take water samples
at the piezometers to check whether the information relating to the
Groundwater contamination has been proven or is rumored.

CRIIRAD has recently received several letters and telephone calls
of workers working on the Tricastin site alerting him to
serious dysfunctions, in particular 1 / on the erosion undergone by the tumulus of
waste (rain, wind.), erosion which has recently updated a number of
drums and which was treated by pouring a new layer of soil on the
waste; 2 / on the contamination (chemical and radiological) of the groundwater table
at the site right.

EMERGENCY

Interventions must be carried out as soon as possible. Indeed,
the more time passes, the more the number of corroded and gutted barrels, the more
increase the risk of soil and groundwater pollution, the number
of people exposed to radiation emitted by the mound and the risks of
contamination by inhalation of radioactive gases and aerosols.

It has been more than 30 years since this illegal deposition of radioactive pollutants and
remains, with impunity, in violation of principles
waste management fundamentals, principles supposed to guarantee preservation
protection of the environment and the health protection of workers and the public.

It is shocking to note that neither the Nuclear Safety Authority (ASN) nor the
departments concerned did not require compliance and they continue to
otherwise grant operators new authorizations. The treatment
past pollution and containment of toxic waste should
constitute a prerequisite for any new development project.

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1 BNI 87 and 88 corresponding to the 4 reactors of the CNPE EDF; INB 93 for the EURODIF gas diffusion enrichment plant (Georges Besse); INB 105 for the COMURHEX plant to convert UF4 to UF6; BNI 138 for SOCATRI uranium remediation and recovery facilities; INB 155 for the AREVA NC TU5 plant (Cogéma); INB 157 for the EDF nuclear maintenance installation, known as the Operational Warm Base of Tricastin (BCOT); INB 168 for the future SET uranium enrichment plant by centrifugation (Georges Besse II), the construction of which was authorized in April 2007.

2 The information may appear in the inventory published in 2000 which CRIIRAD does not have. In 2001, there was no publication.

3 See, for example, the Malvési-Comurhex files (no mention of the presence of transuranium elements in the some 300 tonnes of radioactive waste, disappearance of the key radionuclide, thorium 000, etc.) and Gueugnon-AREVA (nothing on the 230 tonnes radioactive residues present in the ground of the parking lot of the football stadium, to name only the most recent).
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by The shadow » 04/07/08, 15:47

it seems to me that this is in the secret defense in France because no info should filter on nuclear in France must go to other European countries to get info

very large fines are possible for those who disclose information etc .....

this is the very example of a democratic country which is already pinned by the european commissions for breaches of the rules it signed


good i'm going out :|
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by jonule » 04/07/08, 15:54

well there is a secret defense for the military yet we can conceive it, but in the law there is also TRANSPARENCY for the public, and here we talk about civilian nuclear power for hair dryers, there is a difference all the same ...

typical example: we have the right to ask ANDRA for the list of 3115 municipalities concerned for the burying of "civilian" nuclear waste from other countries, a shame .......
military waste is known where it goes now: it is turned into a bomb, a good way to get rid of it ...

a little sad a little poor all that .... the cutting edge of technology!


but at the time we live, we must stop closing our eyes and give ourselves the means to prefer renewable NRJs, right?

"is in 2008 all the same" :P
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by The shadow » 04/07/08, 16:15

you are 100% right
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by Leo Maximus » 04/07/08, 21:53

You forgot the uranium mine waste rock, millions of tons of waste stored in the open air produce radon, a radio element with a short half-life of course, but mine waste rock produces it continuously. : Lol:

And let us not forget the military grounds where one proceeds to the exercises of shelling in depleted uranium. : Lol:

Etc., etc ...
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by The shadow » 05/07/08, 00:12

who destroy no pacific atoll nor leave dangerous materials behind us like in Algeria living our beautiful homeland
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