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by Christophe » 10/01/12, 09:43

Small synthetic article on the "losers" and "winners" of a fuel at 3 euros per liter ... we can complete the list ...

http://www.terraeco.net/Vainqueurs-et-v ... 40679.html

Winners and losers of the liter of super at 3 euros

Dossier - Producers of agrofuels and organic farmers on the one hand, large retailers and townspeople on the other, what would happen in an overpriced oil world?

Winners

* "Big Oil"

Even after peak oil, the giants of the black gold will continue to make good business for a long time, since "what is rare is expensive" (unless the fight against climate change does not force them to change their business ...) .

* Agrofuel producers

40% of the US corn crop (primarily GMO) finished last year in biofuel refineries. And this is probably only a beginning.

* Gun merchants

Recent reports from the US Department of Defense and the German army point out that the scarcity of oil will increase the risk of war.

* Manufacturers of wind turbines, solar panels and hybrid vehicles

Of course. Except that ... these technologies depend on access to rare metals (gallium, indium or germanium for photovoltaic panels, "rare earths" for permanent magnets of wind turbines, lithium and cobalt for batteries of electric cars). However, their extraction is voracious in energy and the reserves are concentrated in distant countries: China, Australia, South Africa and Chile, in particular.

* Organic farmers in short circuit

They do not follow exactly the same strategy as agrofuel producers, but it will work too, otherwise ...

* Craftsmen and local shops

As for their cousins ​​farmers, their success is guaranteed. No more Saturday afternoons at the supermarket with the big sedan!

* Masters sailboats

Forget planes and cargo ships that eat fuel. And then it would be nice to see the sailing navy reborn, no?

The defeated

* The supermarket

Carrefour, Walmart, etc. : giant hatboxes where we used to buy everything will suffer, that's for sure, since their business model is based on the low-cost transportation of their goods ... and their customers.

* Medium and long distance tourism

The peak oil will obviously hurt very much air transport. Already in 2008, when the barrel was close to the 150 dollars (115 euros), many Western airlines have passed close to the crash. Now that the barrel of Brent is maintained - despite the crisis - above the 100 dollars (77 euros), social plans and cost compression are multiplying again, for example at Air France.

* The relocated industries

For a quarter of a century, we have relocated everything and everything in order to find a cheaper workforce on the other side of the planet. This phenomenon - partly responsible for mass unemployment in Europe - is only possible because transport is still only a small part of the cost of goods. If the price of oil climbs frankly, goodbye probably the made in China, and even the off-season fruits from southern Spain or Italy in beautiful trucks.

* The inhabitants of the cities

And especially those of megacities in the South ... except perhaps if they have chickens, grow vegetables or have "a gun in the toilet [which] is a source of great comfort" (1), as the author notes James Howard Kunstler. If the world's population has doubled since the end of the Second World War, and most of the population now lives in the cities, it is primarily because of the extraordinary improvement in agricultural yields obtained from oil. and mechanization. If oil becomes scarce, everyone will necessarily have to get closer to the land.

(1) Excerpt from The Long Emergency (Grove Press, 2006).
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by Obamot » 10/01/12, 10:07

I just saw something about the new rush of black gold (especially in the United States)
http://www.20minutes.fr/article/852045/ ... etats-unis

So they will put their pockets, because the oil reserves soaked in rock are considerable! But to say that it will increase again ... maybe not right now.

In the meantime, looting of mineral resources continues at a steady pace. The only way to save the planet is to review the economic system, to no longer be so dependent on mineral resources ... By founding a system on renewable and recycling, but it's not tomorrow the day before and yet it urge!
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by Christophe » 10/01/12, 10:28

"We" will REALLY do without oil when it doesn't bring in so much money, you should know this article: https://www.econologie.com/l-argent-du-p ... -3297.html

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That is to say, it's not ready to arrive ...

So indeed it is the "system" that needs to be reviewed ...

This is not ready to arrive ...

So + 10 with:

it's not tomorrow the day before and yet it's urgent!
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by Obamot » 10/01/12, 11:20

Alas!

" Unless ", as Janic would say :D
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by Did67 » 10/01/12, 12:28

I have some doubts about the impact on "made in China" products, for two reasons:

(a) the vessels use heavy oils, which are rather by-products; certainly, the scarcity of oil will lead to an increase in the cost ...

b) transport on container ships, for medium density products (Iphone type), represents peanuts from peanuts in the final cost of the device. Until a multiplication of the price of transport by 10 has a measurable impact on the final price ....

Of course, this will play, at the margin, for less dense products, for perishable products, frozen products (who knows that a third of the frozen - plants - in France comes from ... China!), Etc ...

On the other hand, an impact not yet measured on food products: today, instead of being above all "solitary energy in bars", our nourishment is 75% of oil in bars! [via mechanization; via fertilizer - 1 kg of nitrogen = 3 l of petroleum; via synthetic pesticides]. There, it could flare up very quickly. What family can support a tripling of food prices ...
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by bleusideral » 10/01/12, 13:45

Christophe wrote:Small synthetic article on the "losers" and "winners" of a fuel at 3 euros per liter ... we can complete the list ...

http://www.terraeco.net/Vainqueurs-et-v ... 40679.html


At this price, I would say that I do well to keep my good old box 4 wheels and roll it to the fries 50%!

more seriously, I am thinking of the consequences of exploiting deposits soaked in rocks, such as shale gas, a fine example of an announced decline ....
hello pollution at all levels, co2, h²o, etc ...
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by sen-no-sen » 10/01/12, 13:51

Did67 wrote:On the other hand, an impact not yet measured on food products: today, instead of being above all "solitary energy in bars", our nourishment is 75% of oil in bars! [via mechanization; via fertilizer - 1 kg of nitrogen = 3 l of petroleum; via synthetic pesticides]. There, it could flare up very quickly. What family can support a tripling of food prices ...


You do well to remember, the increase in the price of oil - seen its major strategic issues - may have caused many conflicts: World War 3?
That is why a wise government must do everything possible to reduce the grip of the black gold on our lives.
In the event of a major oil crisis, our strategic reserves (RSP) are 90 days (of the average domestic consumption, calculated on the values ​​of the previous calendar year).
After this time ... riot, civil war ....

Besides, it's the program of who ???
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by dedeleco » 10/01/12, 16:41

It will be fun, if as in 40, without oil, all, we went again by bike to lose weight!

But there is enough fossil fuel underground, oil gas, coal, to multiply carbon dioxide in the air by 10, as there are 56 million years, spontaneously, with warming of + 15 ° C, and the poles with the current climate in France !!

Also, it will be necessary to stop, to make CO2, well before starting the inevitable and irreversible rise on one to two millennium of 70m, to 2 to 4m by century, similar rise to that of 15000 years ago to 8000 years , of 120m, as inescapable without our CO2, with many catastrophes.
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by sen-no-sen » 10/01/12, 16:47

dedeleco wrote:It will be fun, if as in 40, without oil, all, we went again by bike to lose weight!


There will be no need for a bike to lose weight!
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No more jobs, no more food ... survive what!
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by dedeleco » 10/01/12, 16:58

In 40 we lived with gasogens !!

And our ancestors on 2 million years have lived without this oil!

But we have gas to warm the planet of 15 ° C as 56 millions of years ago.
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