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by dedeleco » 29/04/11, 04:22

Sarkozy said tonight planting a tree in Corréze with F. Hollande and B. Chirac on TV at least tf1:

Which say we can replace the nuclear with the renewable say a monstrosity


He is clearly under influence and advised by Jancovici and Areva!

Sarko does not seem to have understood that after a monstrous catastrophe like Chernobyl and Fukushima, by his trauma, inevitable sooner or later also in France, since men are not infallible in perpetuitywe will forcefully and immediately replace the failing nuclear in the disaster very quickly, in the midst of a monstrous economic recession. with a whole region sterilized, unusable and emptied of its inhabitants overnight!

He seems not to have understood and to want to make such a monstrous sacrifice to France instead of learning from it and to avoid France such a monstrosity, given our incredible chance of not having had a nuclear catastrophe so far !!

This chance can not continue forever!

Moreover Germany becoming the effective leader of the reliable renewable will dominate us economically with this reliable solution of the future at our place seen our solutions for the monstrous fiasco, with ITER and the nuclear power that will inevitably increase the number of disasters, especially in the Indies where Areva is going to build a power plant on a 10 fault more active than in France, in the Himalaya report on the Alps, and moreover in an overpopulated country 1,2 billion inhabitants, where such a disaster will be super-monstrous. !!.

Finally our experts like Jancovici are superbly ignorant of simple renewable solutions capable of replacing nuclear power plants used to heat electricity (a monstrosity of bad past choices) in realizing the summer solar heat storage currently wasted in the earth to heat the winter following the realization that works in Canada of Drake Landing solar Community:
http://www.dlsc.ca/DLSC_Brochure_f.pdf
http://www.dlsc.ca

It is a monstrosity that the whole France, ecological, specialists, responsible, ignores and despises this effective solution, perpetual, without CO2 and other pollution and perfectible, completely renewable to replace all the CO2, the fossil fuels and the nuclear used for the heating.
With an 1000I of credits allocated to research on nuclear, it is possible to develop this solution to greatly reduce its cost price and make it accessible to all.

In addition the intelligent recovery of all plant wastes wasted everywhere in France, throwing them, burning them in the open air to pollute, would still with this renewable lost by a monstrous waste to replace again nuclear power plants!

Thermal solar plants, algae culture, vortex plants, wind turbines and marine currents, currently a foreign and German specialty, despised in France, allow to replace other nuclear power plants and so'remove this monstrous sword of Damocles on our heads formed by nuclear power in France, before it fell on our heads as in Japan and the USSR!

Our neighbors chose the renewable with common sense, Germans, Spaniards, Italians, Swiss, Danes, Dutch, etc. .. and they will prove to us that it is viable and effectiveas we choose the monstrous solution nuclear polluting and stifling our country for millennia!
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by pb2488 » 29/04/11, 06:58

dedeleco wrote:Our neighbors chose the renewable with common sense, Germans, Spaniards, Italians, Swiss, Danes, Dutch, etc. .. and they will prove to us that it is viable and effectiveas we choose the monstrous solution nuclear polluting and stifling our country for millennia!

That's the common sense:

French, 15% Renewable, 80% Nuclear, 10% Oil / Gas / Coal
Germans, 15% Renewable, 25% Nuclear, 60% Oil / Gas / Coal
Spanish, 20% Renewable, 20% Nuclear, 60% Oil / Gas / Coal
Italian, 20% renewable, 80% oil / gas / coal
Danish, 30% renewable, 70% oil / gas / coal
Dutch, 15% Renewable, 85% Oil / Gas / Coal
http://www.observatoire-electricite.fr/ ... -en-europe

:frown: :frown: :frown:

And I'm not talking about the price and the load factor ....
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by Addrelyn » 29/04/11, 09:20

French, 15% Renewable, 80% Nuclear, 10% Oil / Gas / Coal
Germans, 15% Renewable, 25% Nuclear, 60% Oil / Gas / Coal
Spanish, 20% Renewable, 20% Nuclear, 60% Oil / Gas / Coal
Italian, 20% renewable, 80% oil / gas / coal
Danish, 30% renewable, 70% oil / gas / coal
Dutch, 15% Renewable, 85% Oil / Gas / Coal


And in 10 years, France will be:
50% Renewable, 49% Nuclear, 1% Oil / Gas

Because you may not know it, but Total + EDF + Areva will own (own) the entire solar industry. Example, Tenesol ...

Total is building the world's largest thermo solar plant in Abu Dhabi.
http://www.total.com/fr/groupe/actualites/actualites-820005.html&idActu=2394

They all have the production line of PV panels and intend to become big in the solar.
Mining, silicon purification, manufacturing modules, installation

I worked with solar people at Total and we got along very well, and I learned a lot from them. And sorry to tell you that they are more of my opinion.
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by Christophe » 29/04/11, 10:17

Addrelyn wrote:And in 10 years, France will be:
50% Renewable, 49% Nuclear, 1% Oil / Gas


You're very optimistic ... 50% in 10 years I do not believe 1 second.

If we feel the 20% we can consider ourselves happy!

Abu Dhabi is France? : Cheesy:

ps: hey then slim !! Stop typing on Jancovici please, there are millions of others to type before ... :frown:
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by I Citro » 29/04/11, 10:20

Addrelyn wrote:
French, 15% Renewable, 80% Nuclear, 10% Oil / Gas / Coal
Germans, 15% Renewable, 25% Nuclear, 60% Oil / Gas / Coal
Spanish, 20% Renewable, 20% Nuclear, 60% Oil / Gas / Coal
Italian, 20% renewable, 80% oil / gas / coal
Danish, 30% renewable, 70% oil / gas / coal
Dutch, 15% Renewable, 85% Oil / Gas / Coal
And in 10 years, France will be:
50% Renewable, 49% Nuclear, 1% Oil / Gas

Because you may not know it, but Total + EDF + Areva will own (own) the entire solar industry.
But of course.
Nuclear power, and fossil fuel in general, are neither profitable nor sustainable. The actors of the energy sector are OBLIGED to organize their conversion under penalty of disappearing.

The statements of the ridiculous dwarf are to be interpreted, as usual, on the contrary. That's all. :?

The renewable is already competitive if one is handyman or one is strongly involved in this way.
My solar panels compensate for more than 80% of my household electricity consumption or more than 15000 km of my annual trips by electric car.
For about 10.000 € more it would be possible to cover 100% of my electrical trips is the annual 30.000km traveled by our electric cars and the electricity consumption of our home.

Of course, not everyone lives in a single house ... but the field of renewable is huge ...
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by Christophe » 29/04/11, 10:40

If not, to raise a little the debate (starting from Sarko must not raise high): in 1000 years (probably well before I take a margin of safety with respect to the fossil reserves) if one has not managed to control the nuclear fusion ben on will be MANDATORY to 100% renewable electricity.

It's not monstrous, as Janco would say, it's just mathematical!
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by Addrelyn » 29/04/11, 11:08

we did not succeed in controlling nuclear fission


I think you mean fusion.

Edit: yes of course, I rectified

You're very optimistic ... 50% in 10 years I do not believe 1 second.


You are right, in a few decades.

Abu Dhabi is France?


It's just to say that while some people think that policies are putting a spin on the renewable, that the oil or nuclear groups are burying them, there are engineers working to make the dream come true!

The ecologist, the real ones, are those who work on these projects, not those who try to make sense of their lives by brandishing banners. I have a colleague who did a school of environment. He was getting screwed by his green teachers because he was doing his internships at Total and Areva.
Now, he has introduced the life cycle analysis at Total, and by himself, he will have been the starting point of saving millions of tons of pollution (at least !: mrgreen:), in any case much more than his poor teacher will ever do! [/ Quote]
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by Obamot » 29/04/11, 11:20

Addrelyn, trapped by his sufficiency and his own writings:

(Just like pb2488, industrial trapped in having wanted to deny the planned obsolescence ^ ^)

Addrelyn wrote:Because you may not know it, but Total + EDF + Areva will own (own) the entire solar industry. Example, Tenesol ...

Total is building the world's largest thermo solar plant in Abu Dhabi.
http://www.total.com/fr/groupe/actualites/actualites-820005.html&idActu=2394

They all have the production line of PV panels and intend to become big in the solar.
Mining, silicon purification, manufacturing modules, installation


I have worked with solar people at Total and we got on very well, and I learned a lot from them. And sorry to tell you that they are more of my opinion.


Here we are finally! THE WOLF IS OUT OF WOOD ....

With such agreements and cartels, how would the energy sector become competitive? Since we are moving towards quasi-monopoly situations ...

So it's going to happen, which is usually happening in the industrial sector where they "Get along very well" between them, as with the incandescent lamps artificially limited to 1000 hours of life and this policy will continue even after being punished by the courts!

It is clear that types who hold such reasoning, have for a long time no longer their eyes in the holes - since they are totally corrupt => in full responsibility - they are clearly part of the trash of humanity.

If we want healthy competition in the energy sector - in order for citizens / consumers to benefit fully from technological advances - we must TOTALLY ban concentration centers whose objective is to control everything!
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by Remundo » 29/04/11, 11:31

Funny Sarko ...

With such words, he will wallow superbly in 2012. : Cheesy:

Otherwise, Cherno and Fuku, it is probably not monstrous, dependence to foreign combustribles either ... waste on 10 000 even less ...

Pffff ........... :?
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by Remundo » 29/04/11, 11:32

Obamot wrote:Addrelyn, trapped by his sufficiency and his own writings:

(Just like pb2488, industrial trapped in having wanted to deny the planned obsolescence ^ ^)

Addrelyn wrote:Because you may not know it, but Total + EDF + Areva will own (own) the entire solar industry. Example, Tenesol ...

Total is building the world's largest thermo solar plant in Abu Dhabi.
http://www.total.com/fr/groupe/actualites/actualites-820005.html&idActu=2394

They all have the production line of PV panels and intend to become big in the solar.
Mining, silicon purification, manufacturing modules, installation


I have worked with solar people at Total and we got on very well, and I learned a lot from them. And sorry to tell you that they are more of my opinion.


Here we are finally! THE WOLF IS OUT OF WOOD ....

With such agreements and cartels, how would the energy sector become competitive? Since we are moving towards quasi-monopoly situations ...

So it's going to happen, which is usually happening in the industrial sector where they "Get along very well" between them, as with the incandescent lamps artificially limited to 1000 hours of life and this policy will continue even after being punished by the courts!

It is clear that types who hold such reasoning, have for a long time no longer their eyes in the holes - since they are totally corrupt => in full responsibility - they are clearly part of the trash of humanity.

If we want healthy competition in the energy sector - in order for citizens / consumers to benefit fully from technological advances - we must TOTALLY ban concentration centers whose objective is to control everything!

A fresh news ...
Total will acquire the majority of the American SunPower 28/04/2011

The French group Total will launch a takeover bid to take a majority stake in the American solar panel maker SunPower, valuing it at $ 2,3 billion, and will guarantee up to $ XNUMX billion of its future debts, announced Thursday the groups. The operation, friendly, aims to "create a new world leader in solar energy", according to the joint statement.

"The Total group will launch a friendly takeover bid for 60% of SunPower's outstanding shares at a price of $ 23,25 per share […] which values ​​SunPower at $ 2,3 billion," the two groups.

"The financial guarantee agreement provides for Total to guarantee SunPower's reimbursement obligations for letters of credit to the tune of $ XNUMX billion that would be issued over the next five years for the development of the solar and large power plant businesses. roofs globally, ”add the groups.

At the end of the operation, SunPower will retain its management team, but the French oil group will appoint the majority of the board of directors.

Source: The World
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