No more 1st generation biofuels !!!

crude vegetable oil, diester, bio-ethanol or other biofuels, or fuel of vegetable origin ...
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No more 1st generation biofuels !!!




by C moa » 11/09/08, 15:41

I submit this article found this AM:

The Industry Committee of the European Parliament has voted in favor of a review of the Community targets for the use of biofuels.

The proposal adopted by this committee, which was supported by the three main political groups, provides for greater use of second generation renewable energy sources at the expense of first generation sources, whose ecological balance is disputed.

It specifies that the objective of using 10% of fuels from renewable energy in road transport by 2020 must be achieved at 40% thanks to such second generation sources..


http://www.capital.fr/Actualite/Default.asp?numpage=&Cat=GEN&numero=70329&interview=&source=FI

The farmers may be yelling but I say it was time !!!
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by Capt_Maloche » 11/09/08, 15:52

So much the better indeed, let's use the earth to nourish ourselves, we are already enough, and many are those who do not eat their fill.

The vote has not yet taken place, what will be the new target for fuels from renewable energy in road transport in 2020?
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by Christophe » 11/09/08, 15:55

Well it's an advanced but it's far from the end because if I calculate correctly it will be 4% second generation for 6% 1st generation ... in 2020 !!

By then oil has time to flow through the pipelines ...

Small note: microalgae are not considered as 2nd generation but 3rd generation.
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by jonule » 11/09/08, 16:43

it's nice to hear indeed!

and the farmers will not yell, because they will bring the raw material!

is there a classification elsewhere, "official"?

oil and ethanol are 1st generation?

2nd generation biogas and BTL?

3rd generation hydrogen?
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by Christophe » 11/09/08, 16:50

Again you have all false jonule ... or almost!

No, the farmers will no longer really bring the raw material of the 2nd generation since it is, for example, woody waste (bark, sawdust ...) ...

In this case only large growers (those who have the cash) will be affected by the decision ...

There is just the waste, for example the haulm which could be used but given the volume and potential prices I doubt that it interests them more than the 1st generation.

The classification is as follows:

1st gen: fuel based on food product = agrofuels for me and not biofuel

2nd generation: fuel (ethanol) based on non-food agricultural product

3rd gene: specific biological process (microalgae, clamydomonas, Laigret ...)
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by jonule » 11/09/08, 17:01

Christophe wrote:Again you have all false jonule ... or almost!

no but stop a little? you're drunk there coconut! do you want war or what? what have you got to be aggressive you seem to think only of wanting to be right!

where do you get the classification from, source?
you have the right to make yours ... I have the right to make mine!

where did you put the biogas in all this?

I tell you that for ethanol, if it is 2nd generation, is made in Brazil from sugar cane waste so it is the farmers who own it!

as it is marked "based on non-food agricultural product": if they are agricultural, it is the farmers, what are you talking about ?!
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by Christophe » 11/09/08, 19:02

Jonule stops immediately with this tone ... you're in everyone's sights !!!

you have the right to make yours ... I have the right to make mine!


It's not MY wholesale species, it's the one that is commonly accepted! So find out !!

Your sentence = my definition is the right one = FASCISM

That's enough ban for 2 weeks !! Too bad for your.!


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by Capt_Maloche » 11/09/08, 21:47

Punished the Jojo, You shouldn't upset the Ouaib maester Image

it's funny that, and we have points like for the license?

how much am i at? :D
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by Christophe » 11/09/08, 21:52

Ah not con the point system say so!

Bah modo they would automatically 150 points equivalent allowed (a bit like ministers who roll 180 in town or diplomats who crush kids with impunity except that with us it's for laughs)... so don't worry, you'd be stashed :D


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by martien007 » 12/09/08, 00:25

Well, there I followed the process which leads to the exclusion of jonule.

1 - I do not see how jonule is in the crosshairs of "everyone" !!!! ????

2 - I saw only lively discussions on 2 subjects (nucéaire and biofuels of 2nd generation) and the interlocuteus were Christophe and Bucheron. Not seen other speakers hang on with jonule.

3 - the arguments of jonule are not more false than those of the 2 others.

NOT INCLUDING THE SANCTION :?:

Perhaps we should have consulted the Politburö ??? : Lol:

So there, jonule, it looks like a gulag?
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