Clean Energy: The CSP

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Clean Energy: The CSP




by Econosaurus » 07/06/10, 16:08

What do you think ?

The CSP

Another technique, using thermal solar energy and about which little is said yet, is called CSP (Concentrating Solar Power). This relatively simple technology was first developed in 1985 in Kramer Junction, California. The operation of these plants using solar energy is based on very basic techniques. The idea is as follows:

It involves installing reflective parabolic mirrors which concentrate solar energy in the form of heat on a pipe containing a liquid intended to be heated to actuate turbines in an exchanger. To simplify, we can imagine huge mirrors in the shape of gutters, overhung by a steel pipe coated with glass. The rays are concentrated on this pipe, the liquid of which it contains can reach the temperature of 400 ° C. While producing electricity, this process makes it possible to desalinate seawater.


The sun provides energy to the earth's surface every day 5000 times more than all human energy consumption. Deserts represent 30% of the earth's surface. By exploiting 1% of the surface of the deserts we could meet the current electricity needs on a global scale. It is interesting to note that to date, annual global electricity consumption is equivalent to solar radiation received in deserts in just 5,7 hours.



http://knol.google.com/k/energie-propre-le-csp#
http://www.outilssolaires.com/pv/prin-centraleB.htm
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by dedeleco » 07/06/10, 16:32

Very well, we can put some at home with Stirling engine, more efficient than photovoltaic, but too simple and therefore it is said that the clouds prevent using it in winter when you need electricity for electric heating and heat pumps !!!

We will come there only when the deserts have run out of oil and the too hot planet, without clouds, will receive everywhere the sun full pot !!

Otherwise great French discovery better than nuclear:

Here is the clean efficient future for engine and heating, in addition to the money pump promoted by France officially as a great French discovery !!
FRENCH TECHNOLOGY PRESS OFFICE:

With our TGV the best of our French technology !!

http://www.ubifrance.com/us/search.aspx?cat_id=3&key=

New Technology Produces Environmentally Friendly Electricity Using Nitrogen :

http://www.ubifrance.com/us/BlogDetails.aspx?pi=231

http://www.press-releases-news.com/pres ... ogen-a037/
http://www.consulfrance-chicago.org/spip.php?article312
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post168899.html#168899

https://www.econologie.com/forums/post169149.html#169149
Special Seminar On High-speed Rail In Florida On May 7, 2010
ubifrance2010 - 08-May-2010 15:19:43
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Special Seminar On High-speed Rail In Florida On May 7, 2010

Apr 20, 2010 - Chicago, (word count: 423)
Since President Obama's January announcement of a $ 1.25 billion allocation to develop Florida's high speed rail (HSR) system, the state, and the nation, have been abuzz with questions on how best to efficiently spend these funds. Next month, Florida will host a seminar to study the potential benefits in drawing from the expertise of one of the world's best examples of HSR: France. The seminar will take place on Friday, May 7, 2010, at the Marriott Eden Roc Renaissance Hotel and Conference Center in Miami Beach.

The Florida project is expected to be the first "true" American high speed rail line, and its extension towards Miami is already being planned.
FRENCH TECHNOLOGY PRESS OFFICE
205 North Michigan Avenue, Suite 3740
Chicago, IL 60601
Tel .: (312) 327-5260
Email: contact.ftpo@ubifrance.fr
Tags: Anne-Marie Idrac, French foreign trade minister, high-speed rail, HSR, Florida

NEW TECHNOLOGY PRODUCES ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY ELECTRICITY USING NITROGEN
ubifrance2010 - 08-May-2010 13:38:27
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Chicago, April 12, 2010 (word count: 531)
The recently patented FeMRaDD turbine can cleanly generate an electrical output of up to several megawatts for systems driven with rotating axes. FeMRaDD is a turbine of variable size that consists of several rotary-dynamic systems that interact with each other. This turbine also produces, thanks to its rotary-dynamic, energy for all systems that use rotating axes, such as those in the aerospace, automotive, railway or the shipbuilding industries. It is used especially in the axial power transmission using various components like the drive shaft or the shaft drive.

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Chicago, April 12, 2010
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by Econosaurus » 07/06/10, 17:03

Ouch Ouch, I regret not mastering English :(

You don't have an FR version?
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Re: Clean energy: The CSP




by abaddon » 07/06/10, 17:05

Econosaurus wrote:What do you think ?


I did not know that it was little known ... We have been using this for heating at home for 10 years ...

It has the big advantage of having a much cleaner overall energy balance than photovoltaics (which is a real disaster for it) ...
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by Econosaurus » 07/06/10, 18:03

Ahh! Thank you dedeleco! It's clearer now.

I admit that all this technology makes you want!
"Free" energy to produce, ultra clean, low maintenance of the device ...

But the question in all of this is: What are the short, medium and long term drawbacks?
Imagine that we cover part of the desert with thermal power plants, what will be the impact?
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by dedeleco » 07/06/10, 22:16

Econosaurus:
It's clearer now.

I admit that all this technology makes you want!
"Free" energy to produce, ultra clean, low maintenance of the device ...


It's the miracle, heat, with positive energy turbine, 29W gives 20KW, if true, all our knowledge and all our current energy technology becomes false !!
A priori very big doubts and it is rather a trap for gullible investors !!
see :
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post169492.html#169492

Given the already developed business, in Germany and France and soon US, there are already investors and customers cheated !!
They will put 10ans to justice to can be get a conviction ????
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post169336.html#169336
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A concrete example of pigeons having left beautiful feathers and malcontents, who sent the scammer to prison:
http://energythic.com/view.php?node=53
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory: ... _%28Ltd%29
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26 / 04 / 2010: Comments from the Director of the Portal

Several German newspapers, as well as the PESWiki website, report that Mike BRADY, on 29 March 2010, has been arrested by the Swiss authorities and extradited to Germany following a request by the Munich Attorney General . While awaiting his judgment, Mike BRADY was incarcerated in the prison of Stadelheim.

Following the bankruptcy of his company in Germany, Mike BRADY had rented a residence on Lake Zurich in Switzerland and signed leasing contracts for a fleet of Maserati and several Range Rovers. Il was therefore in full swing when 61 German customers had initiated legal proceedings with a view to recovering the funds they had granted as an advance (more than one million euros) for the acquisition of electromagnetic motors of 100 and 300 kW.

The commitments made by Mike BRADY had never been honored. According to rumors that begin to circulate, the PERENDEV engine would be moreover a simple copy of a permanent magnet motor, whose patent filed by an American in the 90 years would have fallen into the public domain.

The main website has been closed, only the German site and the Russian site are still accessible.

Many inventors today doubt the reality of the allegations of the company PERENDEV. Mike BRADY was not able over a period of more than 4 years to deliver the engines for which he had cashed partial payments and therefore had a contractual legal obligation.

This manifest fraud undermines the credibility of all the surunitaire engine projects.


The Germans look more credulous than the French ????


On the contrary, the CSP conforms to scientific knowledge, no miracle, but very valid for recovering solar energy, except on very cloudy days !!
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by sen-no-sen » 07/06/10, 22:40

A magnificent solar power plant works on its principle, it is Nevada Solar One.
Otherwise I think that vortex towers are more likely to develop, because they do not suffer from the lack of sunshine and can therefore be built anywhere in the world.
But let's say that these are the 2 most promising modes of energy production!
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by Capt_Maloche » 07/06/10, 23:13

Hello everyone

I didn't understand your thing :D

"HET: Hydro Electro Thermie with dimensioned vibration".


The links don't give much explanation either

Isn't there an operating principle described somewhere? a diagram?

because when I read this:
Very brief explanation of the patented principle of HET: Heat is a manifestation of movement.
Liquid temperature should be "just right"
to balance intermolecular forces. Atoms
of liquid constantly collide with each other
and vibrate with great amplitude in the vicinity of
moving positions. By establishing a speed
precise water circulation inside the radiator to
water, the heat transfer produced takes place
efficient way avoiding certain
parasitic noise problems


it's scary Image

: Lol:
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by ToTo00 » 07/07/10, 15:36

Hello,
Regarding the CSP, you can find lots of information with Rankine organic cycle technology on the site organic-cycle-rankine.com
Also you can contact this site directly to get a deeper idea on such an installation.
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