Crowfunding for éconologiques projects?

[Christophe]

What do you think of launching crowfunding projects to manufacture machinery éconologiques projects that have potential but are forgotten ...

Those are pretty heavy project to several ten thousands of euros but I think it's worth a try!

The aim is to manufacture a demonstrator of technology crowfunding (after that could the subject of demo fairs) and why not an industrial development in the future?

I think solar hydrogen Perrier: solar-thermal / solar-jean-luc-Perrier production-and-hydrogen-solar-t1520.html

But also the Wheel Solar Minto: solar-thermal / solar one-engine-the-wheel-of-minto-t1444.html

It could also revive the project Laigret ... and fund the development of a true water doping kit (with the means that nobody has ever been here) at the height of what makes BMW .. .

List to be completed by projects can be less ambitious? As the Sillon'net of Did67? The burner oil André ball?

Here, utopian or not?

[chatelot16]

crowdfunding is a interressante idea, but to finance a realistic project

solar hydrogen Perrier, there is no need money to make a clear description ... but when I ask questions you do not answer me

thus the precise answer abscence I do not believe

crowdfunding I'll use it for more land has something earth inverter injector with energy meter for precise autoconsomation ... with automation for offload and optimization many of the different device ... this is not an invention but just geniale some work to optimize all

Another project: optimized engine type miller cycle thermal cycle that exceeds 50% yield: the also nothing was invented: the existence of the turbo compound engine proves the validity except that the compressor and piston have a detente outperform turbo

but with a big diference with pure crowdfunding: what we need is t at the beginning of a project? not necessarily money but rather the intelectuel ... unnecessary work to get money to pay the employee the full price ... you better look for people competant able to invest a little time to look for people to put money

in the classic crowdfunding people give money, so much the better if it works and wasted if it does nothing ... and even if it works who was given not draw anything, or a symbolic gift

my idea those who bring work will be combined and co-owner of the job done ... even if the overall project fails, the work done will be of value and can enhance partner in another project

long ago a simple idea could raporter money with a simple patent ... now it is difficult to find a simple idea: we have to make something whole that are not salable if it is well designed: outside scope of one man ... you have large teams, and even large company engaged in studies using foul discount: this explains the mediocre quality of the object around us

to work around the problem must be organized differently: I see that there is a multitude competant unemployed or who waste their time in employment under qualified to survive ... you have to share the design work between people who can do without being able to immediately pay the full price but motivated by the participation of useful things

I admire the realization of many admiring handyman ... but a part, and disappointed of another party ... when everyone does his own thing he mastered a technique and he made errors in that part do not control and the result has no future ... to do better must gather the world

the engineer in electronic or mechanical not enough, it will also lawyer for the patent to understand the standards, not to be eaten by anyone

[phil53]

oops I made a duplicate!

[phil53]

Christophe great idea, we must find a subject that unites.
From my point of view, if we want to attract people, you have subjects that quickly lead to concrete with a small potential financial return.
Do not get into too complicated stuff at the beginning but asking little way to start.
That sounds reasonable
When I did the survey for the tool to Didier, I thought to crowfunding but before the few people interested in the tool, I abandoned the idea.
But there are plenty of other ideas.

[morgaf]

If it can to perpetuate the site, I am ready to buy a sillonette even if I have the means and capacity to make me a (dozen).

[phil53]

If it can to perpetuate the site, I am ready to buy a sillonette even if I have the means and capacity to make me a (dozen).

It's noble morgaf, but that's not how it works, we have to find an idea that unites us and that is useful.

[Grelinette]

Hello,

The crowfunding éconologiques for projects does not exist (yet), and crowfunding is in full swing: it's time to test the idea!

especially since the risk is not significant for either the project leader or the administrator, or for contributors.

I recall the outline of Crowfunding:

- A project is detailed with an assessment of its cost of implementation
(Studies, plans, purchasing and manufacturing parts, compensation specialist speakers, etc)).

- The fixed carrier project a financial goal with donations over time
(Example: a project is valued at € 5000, the finance bearer € 2000 from his pocket and request assistance of € 3000 by crowfunding to get 2 months for example)

- Internet users interested in helping and promoting the project send a financial contribution (to the platform), which can range from a few euros to several hundred euros, or even thousands of euros for large projects. (the average donation in 2014 being around € 50 ... but it is the "median donation" which is the most significant),

- A platform is responsible for collecting donations and keeps time of the fixed period.
If the purpose of donations is reached in time, the platform reverse donations to the project leader and a guard% in costs, if donations are refunded to donors

- The project leader proposes "counterparts" (symbolic) according to the size of the donation, and regularly informs about the evolution of his project


That's usually the crowfunding offered on specialized platforms. (The best known are: KissKissBankBank et UluleBut many new platforms crowfunding appear each year).

It may be donations, But also loansOr "actions" the value of a project to be marketed or is to generate a turnover when finished.

It is possible to imagine other forms of assistance for crowfunding econological, for example "offering" the realization of a stage of the project: plans, technical study, technical advice, manufacture or donation of parts or materials, etc.

What is interesting in the context of a financing of a project econological is that in parallel may open a debate on the technical choices and direction of the project, debate reserved for donors, particularly specialists on the subject in which the project falls.

[Did67]

, and crowfunding is in full swing: it's time to test the idea!

On the internet, there is the buzz that is durable: crowdfunding is already fall!

https://fr.express.live/2016/05/24/les- ... tanniques/

http://www.journaldunet.com/economie/fi ... wdfunding/

This is, in general, already past ...

This does not prevent those who believe to try, if you have a good idea ...

[lilian07]

I agree, there is no point to fund projects without something innovative, simple, and cost effective federated by a minimum of person.
Moreover, the project must be realistic and enforceable by those who give their time (the famous division of jurisdiction winner winner to give life or not the project).
The draft Chatelot is characteristic, it is viable consensual manner but simply deserves resulted advantage (benefit for reassurance, to further improve and continue with a common intellectual work).
For example, it would be enough to be able to work on the recovery of the energy reinjected to use it for self-consumption to make the system even more autonomous and robust (or give up the idea by realism). It is at the moment when the threshold of realization is admitted that should come into play a common interest in financing by Crowfouding.
The first tests would be carried out without any great risk for the interest of all (for example the realization or the purchase of a system of unloading towards the ECS or other source of recovery in the project of Chatelot)
I am convinced that the body of knowledge united by the common desire can bring great answers inaccessible to industry, researchers and other state entities .... This is also for me the only solution I see to switch to autonomy and renewable energy instead of fossil fuels ....
The crowfounding is an economic weapon for innovative achievements, it is another weapon that would well used validation of a project carried out upstream by a passionate expert college.
I propose a simple idea, which begins with the identification of individual projects as small or achievements to be there to make a kind of risk identification table with columns such 3 "realism, feasibility, profitability ..."
The realism, the profitability and the feasibility can be collegially discussed before switching to a financing to test in situ the feasibility (the test could be realized by the owner of the idea or by several people of the college).
Maybe he should talk to other criteria to assess the risk of advantage ... to see.
Christophe, we can do more with less, it should probably start with the census and then switch on the classification of ideas evoked by different criteria.
Without realization, an idea is worth nothing ...

[Christophe]

Christophe, we can do more with less, it should probably start with the census and then switch on the classification of ideas evoked by different criteria.

It was, among other things, the idea of ​​why this topic: an inventory of potentially viable ideas ...

What worries me most is the organization (so remote unmanageable) after financing ... or we have to find project managers and econologie.com will only relay the media?

Just as the coach of Grelinette: http://fr.ulule.com/hippomobile/

ps: did67 we do not have the reading of the curve, it is not because a month undergoes a drop in bottom harvest, that the general trend is not up ... and if I have correctly including the article concerns rather fundraising in the genre "placement" and not to finance small projects like Ulule ...