Energy Transition: Nuclear 75% to 50 2025% in?

[Christophe]

Assembly adopts text on energy transition

French MPs adopted on Tuesday by 314 votes against 219 the bill on the energy transition which aims to reduce the share of nuclear power generation 75% 50% 2025 (Reuters).

A wishful vow?

Personally I have a hard time believing it and I do not know how France hopes to get there: 25% of French production is about 140 TWh !! (about 550 TWh of memory production)

Edit: I have good memory: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lect ... _en_France

In 2013, the net electricity production is 550,9 TWh, the nuclear power stations producing 403,7 TWh (73,3%), the 75,7 TWh hydraulic power plants (13,8%), the conventional 44,7 TWh thermal power plants (8,1%), the 15,9 2,9 TWh wind turbine (4,6%), the 0,8 TWh photovoltaic (6,3%) and the other 1,1 TWh ENR (XNUMX%)

A big wind turbine of 3MW (those of 120m of mat!) With an invoice of load of 20%, go 25%, will produce: 3 * 8.7 * 0.25 = 6.5 GWh per year ... in 10 years it would thus be necessary to install: 140 000 / 6.5 = 21 500 wind turbines is close to 6 wind turbines from 3 MW PER DAY! In other words: impossible in 10 years!

While the nuclear 25% will definitely not be replaced by wind turbines! But instead of replacing these 140 TWh nuclear can also decrease, 25 25% remaining%!

So it will also necessarily pass through energy savings through insulation, the ban on electric heating, small gestures ... etc etc ...

That would make it possible to be and moreover more durable too! For better a kWh saved than a nuclear kWh replaced by a fossil kWh and even wind!

In any case I fear the announcement effect ...

The vote of a law is good ... but wait for the decree of application (edf is watching!)

[Did67]

It's worse !!!

There are in France, different "kinds" of law: organic law, program law, orientation law ....

This one is an objective law!

She sets a goal, without saying anything about the means, the paths ...

We could also have called it "wishful thinking law!"

If we have shown the passage of the nuclear share to 50%, at EdF we hope to increase consumption, which would allow to stabilize nuclear production (we stop 3 units but we start the EPR: we operate at "nuclear load "constant) ...

We have not finished having ads for electric heating, heat pumps and what do I know ...

Now the law contains all the same good intentions other than this issue of nuclear, which obviously rushes the media:

http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/ta ... 230-a0.asp

[Christophe]

+ 1 on the Law!

If we have shown the passage of the nuclear share to 50%, at EdF we hope to increase consumption, which would allow to stabilize nuclear production (we stop 3 units but we start the EPR: we operate at "nuclear load "constant) ...

Ah yes, I see: "not stupid" at all this solution, mathematically valid and I had not dared to think about it !! (occupational hazard???)

In short, talking about% in a Law is not a very "transparent" way!

[Christophe]

News made: https://www.econologie.com/loi-sur-la-tr ... -4456.html (Thank you didi for indicating the 3ieme possibility!)

Edit: I made the calculation, it would consume 800 TWh for the current nuclear production is 50% ...

Think about retwitter or facebook about this subject!

[Gaston]

Ah yes, I see: "not stupid" at all this solution, mathematically valid and I had not dared to think about it !! (occupational hazard???)

But finally not much simpler to achieve: retaining 400 TWh nuclear, it assumes that consumption (and therefore production) goes to 800 TWh, an increase of 250 TWh ...

And how to increase the production of 250 TWh
We come back to the calculation on wind turbines

[Christophe]

Exact I was going to edit my message to specify it: 850 TWh according to the figures of wiki above ...

[Gaston]

Exact I was going to edit my message to specify it: 850 TWh according to the figures of wiki above ...

Well ... for me, if the nuclear product 403,7 TWh and represents 50% is that the overall production is 807,4 ...
That I rounded to 800

[Christophe]

Oh yes, mea culpa, I took the raw electricity board!

I will rectify!

[Cuicui]

What would it look like if all the sunny roofs were covered with photovoltaic panels?

[Christophe]

A ladle and feeling: 10 15% of the total production ... and with a big mess to balance the network!

But yes we must intervene at all levels and with all the energies (or negative energies = negawatt, negawatthour more precisely) possible!