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Brand new on the forum but less to cultivate using hay




by lazzaret » 23/08/17, 00:07

Hello to all,

my name is cédric and I mulch my tiny garden with hay that I pick up from a nearby orchid meadow. I do not use hay bale but bulk which requires more handling but which offers the same advantages if we put enough.

little to say yet ... except to be happy to be with you to learn more.

some pictures of the garden where I am really in minimalist intervention:

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a mound of cultivation planted with willows on both sides and whose initial idea was to provide shade at the same time as enjoying the mulch of dead leaves (on site) in winter. The virtues of willow do not stop at the two described ...
the disadvantage is that the willow is very greedy in water and in an atypical (and dry) year, it draws water at the expense of the vegetables and the decomposition of the mound.
side mounds which were to feed by gravity from the decomposition of the central mound. As the latter is too dry, the side mounds, if they are fed, are on a cycle of material renewal longer than that of conventional vegetable crops.

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an attempt (not in phenoculture) to cultivate goji berry bushes between a double row of willows, the main foot of which is pruned about 20 cm high and then left to cope up to 2 meters high.
result still mixed because of the lack of rain. No fruit, dying bushes but one thing expected and which seems to be true, the shoots of the year (goji bushes) use the willow regrowth as a stake and therefore point outwards on either side of the double row of willows. In this test, the willow has played its role of windbreak well and will produce enough wood of the year to make BRF which will be reinjected at the foot of the goji.

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Finally, for those who want to grow only a few feet of tomatoes, here is a small system that works very well, especially in dry years.
a rounded mound staked with a few branches of interwoven willows, a few feet of tomatoes (4 or 5) and other vegetables from good neighborhood. I personally put parsnips and salad.
the mound is surmounted by a PVC pipe, pierced with multiple holes at its lower end. The pipe inserted some 20 cm into the mound and filled on these 20 cm of peat.
so equipped, I sprinkle in the pipe until the water level reaches the top and that's it. So no water on the vegetables and a distribution that seems quite effective in the mini hill.
the advantages observed are that the blackbirds do not grind in this mound, that I save a lot of water compared to a conventional watering and that the tomatoes do not show any sign of cryptogamic diseases. The downside is that the voles love this underground freshness ... In fact adding repellents (if it exists) seems necessary.

I would finish by saying that I also apply phenoculture to the pleasure garden and the results are fine with me too.

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orchids and ferns.
ferns are garden center classics. They really suffer from the scorching summer in Gironde. Orchids are masdevallia from South America (for connoisseurs). Thick mulch hay really gives excellent results on the survival of these plants known for their low resistance to high temperatures combined with dry air.
This last point on the pleasure garden is perhaps inappropriate compared to the vegetable crops commonly presented, in which case a call to order and I will delete this part of the message.
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Re: all new on the forum but less to cultivate using hay




by lazzaret » 23/08/17, 14:18

In addition to my first message, and in response to reading yours, I went to check more carefully if the tomatoes had leaf spots (cryptogamic attacks).

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obviously, no stain. Some dried leaves ... normal for tall plants (a plant in the photo) without watering later than that at the time of planting. a bit of black ass also (the summer sun bangs hard ...) on one or two fruits in formation. As a whole, the health status of this tomato stalk is satisfactory from the bottom to the top of the plant.

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a combination test ... tomato, watermelon, almond.
nothing special to say about the almond tree. Purchased recently, it will settle down slowly. A contribution from BRF this winter should boost it at the end of next winter.
the tomato stalk, after examination, appears healthy apart from a few dried leaves and a fruit with the beginning of a black bottom.
watermelon grows very slowly and stuck against the trunk of the almond tree ... lack of water, too much direct sun ... The causes are probably many. Try again in the soft shade of a large deciduous tree or as a complement to the goji berry bushes under the double row of willows.
I will still resume watering to see if this is the determining factor in their near growth stop.
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Re: all new on the forum but less to cultivate using hay




by lazzaret » 23/08/17, 15:51

I managed to put the links of the images but I want a hand on "how to make the images appear" in the discussion and not just the link.

Thank you in advance for your help.
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Re: all new on the forum but less to cultivate using hay




by 1360 » 23/08/17, 17:42

Hi and welcome to you.

For the photos, they appear nickel in your first post, no problem.

For the rest, the least we can say is that you're on the right track forum !

Come on, I leave room for specialists.

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by Christophe » 23/08/17, 20:27

lazzaret wrote:I managed to put the links of the images but I want a hand on "how to make the images appear" in the discussion and not just the link.

Thank you in advance for your help.


Use the "Attachments" function at the bottom of the message writing window and the "insert in line" button if you want the image to appear in the text (otherwise all images will appear at the end of the message )
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Re: All new on the forum but less to cultivate using hay




by Christophe » 23/08/17, 21:48

I also strongly recommend using the attachments function instead of external image hosts (because after a certain time the images will disappear for an X or Y reason ...)
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Re: All new on the forum but less to cultivate using hay




by lazzaret » 23/08/17, 21:57

disappearance of images, that's what happened ... : Cheesy:

I will try the technique of the attachment in a next message with images (if I get there)
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Re: All new on the forum but less to cultivate using hay




by Christophe » 23/08/17, 23:25

I edited your 2 messages to directly include the images ... you'll see it's very easy (in fact you shouldn't even use the IMG tag ... I still thought I was on the old one forum :D)
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Re: All new on the forum but less to cultivate using hay




by lazzaret » 24/08/17, 17:19

I share with you an observation on the squash, here, scabies of eysines, having grown on a pile of waste.
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some of these pumpkins frolic in the sun
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and another part grow in the shade
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and climb trees
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I had always believed that the squashes were plants in full sun but clearly, in the shade, the leaves are fully blooming and the plant launches an assault on any support while in the sun, the leaves curl up, the plant seems to be suffering and it crawls or clings painfully.
All things being equal, all of these feet undergo the same non-intervention treatment.

several questions :
1) is this variety particularly shade?
2) in your way of growing squash, do you favor full sun or do you grow in the shade? do you have trials in progress (shade vs full sun)
3) do the other cucurbits, in particular melons and watermelons work in the same way as pumpkins with regard to their requirement of sunshine?
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Re: All new on the forum but less to cultivate using hay




by sicetaitsimple » 24/08/17, 20:41

lazzaret wrote:I had always believed that the squashes were plants in full sun but clearly, in the shade, the leaves are fully blooming and the plant launches an assault on any support while in the sun, the leaves curl up, the plant seems to be suffering and it crawls or clings painfully.



Me too, but sorry I don't grow squash, melons, ... it takes up too much space for my small available area.

That said, it is not the leaves that count, but the fruits! Do you notice a difference?

Squash that goes up to the trees but that would only make leaves, certainly in good health, it is still of limited interest .....
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