Vegetable garden of the (super) lazy in the 04 (800m)
published: 31/05/17, 19:06
Hello,
2 words on the title
- (super) ... is the goal: to do almost nothing from sowing to harvesting
We start slowly a subject that we hope to follow regularly over our failures and successes
Where do we come from?
84, Luberon, tenants for years we tinkered over the (meager) opportunities that were given to us by perma-pheno ... etc culture without knowing it elsewhere.
Since January 2017 owners of 3ha in the 04: largely enough to "kill" the task but mostly do what you want and including experiences (finally)
Our way of thinking things:
All feedback from all of us are interesting.
And the word experience is essential because we expect to make tons in the market gardening or botany.
Mini example: 4 years ago we had bought tarragon on a plant market, the seller had told us that it was not even worth dreaming that he spends the winter ...
My faith it is 4 years that this tarragon started again more beautiful every year (planted in the ground against the house due north).
This year the move was made in the worst conditions, we unearthed the tarragon with the tear we put it in pots, it remained more or less protected outside, in our new place of residence, and even 2 small planters without any protection in full frost (we did not know what was in it) and he made -15 during 15 days and he left more beautiful the first beautiful days in spring still in the pots he was taken out of the pots and replanted in the ground and he wears himself like a charm ...
So we do not know how to interpret the "he will not spend the winter"
We look a lot of videos and other information on the net and we realize over the comments that many Internet users tend to consider as established and valid on their behalf achievements made in pictures ...
For our part we are rather cautious about the "ready to reproduce".
Because a multitude of parameters are different from a kitchen garden or garden to another
Difficult to be exhaustive but we can mention: climate, altitude, sunshine, type of sunshine, hygrometry, rainfall, rainfall frequency, water table, soil, sub soil, fauna, flora, agricultural environment, cultivated plants, varieties, genetic hazards , adret, hubac, predators or not ... etc
Reason why we plant the scenery to say that for each space we must ADAPT the achievements of each other to his land (earth summarizing all the parameters mentioned above) and not necessarily apply them to the letter.
Thus such a pioneer will provide you with extraordinary seeds of tomatoes that grow without watering (and that he has 20 years to select should not forget) and which will not be suitable for your land, we can multiply the examples to infinity .
On the other hand, applying this excellent method and attitude and SELECTING oneself from one's own SES crops to own seeds adapted to one's land seems to us the ideal driving.
We stop there for our vision of things.
So our land or plant the scenery:
Fallow land
800m altitude
Last rain: the morning of 2 may
Small breeding valley: no crops (no pesticides) and many hay meadows
Position on a mound in the middle of the valley: either far from the river and far from the "mountain", except error neither source nor water table close
Earth clay hard as stone (the electric auger - not very green all that - sometimes has trouble to start the 1ère layer is to say)
Glasses of earth: very little
Slugs: so far no
Bald: little (much less than in the Luberon)
Birds: jays oaks very thieves, crows, birds of prey, paragliders ...
Insects: crickets in abundance, at this moment almost no locusts (unlike the Luberon)
Butterflies: many, lemon, flambé, argus, Apollo (I'm surprised but maybe or very similar), not seen swallowtail for the moment,
Toads: 1 in the watering system
Rabbits: an invasion (mandatory fence). Our 4 cats, uh grinding our two pussies, started a daily hunt for rabbits
Wild boars: so far no
Roe deer: to date none
End of frost early May (snow the 1er May this year)
Fresh nights currently from 5 to 10 °
Very hot sunny days 30 ° BUT abundant cloudy budding so nothing to do with the Luberon and non stop direct sun
Land never cultivated.
Organic indicator plants (as they say): thistles, "golden buttons", daisies, clover, bird's-foot trefoil, wild cherry trees, wild rosehips, viperine, daisies, wild camomile, plus all those that have not yet been taken. time to discover and the "quills" in shambles.
This gives an idea of the area and its biotope.
We would probably learn even more about our land by having a better knowledge of all the flowers or plants that we have not identified but it will come with time ...
Here is the bare ground starting at the moment where on the left with a friend agri has installed the greenhouse, the right part being devoted to an open kitchen garden
See you soon for more, question, criticism, reservations and suggestions welcome, positive or negative you are a taker of everything is how we progress.
2 words on the title
- (super) ... is the goal: to do almost nothing from sowing to harvesting
We start slowly a subject that we hope to follow regularly over our failures and successes
Where do we come from?
84, Luberon, tenants for years we tinkered over the (meager) opportunities that were given to us by perma-pheno ... etc culture without knowing it elsewhere.
Since January 2017 owners of 3ha in the 04: largely enough to "kill" the task but mostly do what you want and including experiences (finally)
Our way of thinking things:
All feedback from all of us are interesting.
And the word experience is essential because we expect to make tons in the market gardening or botany.
Mini example: 4 years ago we had bought tarragon on a plant market, the seller had told us that it was not even worth dreaming that he spends the winter ...
My faith it is 4 years that this tarragon started again more beautiful every year (planted in the ground against the house due north).
This year the move was made in the worst conditions, we unearthed the tarragon with the tear we put it in pots, it remained more or less protected outside, in our new place of residence, and even 2 small planters without any protection in full frost (we did not know what was in it) and he made -15 during 15 days and he left more beautiful the first beautiful days in spring still in the pots he was taken out of the pots and replanted in the ground and he wears himself like a charm ...
So we do not know how to interpret the "he will not spend the winter"
We look a lot of videos and other information on the net and we realize over the comments that many Internet users tend to consider as established and valid on their behalf achievements made in pictures ...
For our part we are rather cautious about the "ready to reproduce".
Because a multitude of parameters are different from a kitchen garden or garden to another
Difficult to be exhaustive but we can mention: climate, altitude, sunshine, type of sunshine, hygrometry, rainfall, rainfall frequency, water table, soil, sub soil, fauna, flora, agricultural environment, cultivated plants, varieties, genetic hazards , adret, hubac, predators or not ... etc
Reason why we plant the scenery to say that for each space we must ADAPT the achievements of each other to his land (earth summarizing all the parameters mentioned above) and not necessarily apply them to the letter.
Thus such a pioneer will provide you with extraordinary seeds of tomatoes that grow without watering (and that he has 20 years to select should not forget) and which will not be suitable for your land, we can multiply the examples to infinity .
On the other hand, applying this excellent method and attitude and SELECTING oneself from one's own SES crops to own seeds adapted to one's land seems to us the ideal driving.
We stop there for our vision of things.
So our land or plant the scenery:
Fallow land
800m altitude
Last rain: the morning of 2 may
Small breeding valley: no crops (no pesticides) and many hay meadows
Position on a mound in the middle of the valley: either far from the river and far from the "mountain", except error neither source nor water table close
Earth clay hard as stone (the electric auger - not very green all that - sometimes has trouble to start the 1ère layer is to say)
Glasses of earth: very little
Slugs: so far no
Bald: little (much less than in the Luberon)
Birds: jays oaks very thieves, crows, birds of prey, paragliders ...
Insects: crickets in abundance, at this moment almost no locusts (unlike the Luberon)
Butterflies: many, lemon, flambé, argus, Apollo (I'm surprised but maybe or very similar), not seen swallowtail for the moment,
Toads: 1 in the watering system
Rabbits: an invasion (mandatory fence). Our 4 cats, uh grinding our two pussies, started a daily hunt for rabbits
Wild boars: so far no
Roe deer: to date none
End of frost early May (snow the 1er May this year)
Fresh nights currently from 5 to 10 °
Very hot sunny days 30 ° BUT abundant cloudy budding so nothing to do with the Luberon and non stop direct sun
Land never cultivated.
Organic indicator plants (as they say): thistles, "golden buttons", daisies, clover, bird's-foot trefoil, wild cherry trees, wild rosehips, viperine, daisies, wild camomile, plus all those that have not yet been taken. time to discover and the "quills" in shambles.
This gives an idea of the area and its biotope.
We would probably learn even more about our land by having a better knowledge of all the flowers or plants that we have not identified but it will come with time ...
Here is the bare ground starting at the moment where on the left with a friend agri has installed the greenhouse, the right part being devoted to an open kitchen garden
See you soon for more, question, criticism, reservations and suggestions welcome, positive or negative you are a taker of everything is how we progress.