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Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by gegyx » 28/01/06, 12:54

The black plastic called "high pressure" is used for cold and hot water pipes in buildings, and replaces the nickel-plated metal pipes which ended up rusting. They support pressure and heat; they are thicker, and heavier; they are sold by 12m (?)… Must recover scraps in a bucket, but for the tips?
Gray pvc eventually warps. The downspout of the kitchen sink is twisted and flattens over time.
For the red tractor I wonder anyway! It will not last long ... To not be bored with leaking bubbler, it is better to do it solid and be quiet; there is enough to deal with the rest ...
In addition, in the photo, the gas that supplies the bubbler is a little exhaust, arriving on the bubbler, in a gray electric thermoplastic sheath, thin as everything, and melting at the first heat ...
Is it a montage photo? Made by the NSA to misinform :?:
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by Cuicui » 28/01/06, 14:46

My house has been built for 20 years and all evacuations are made with that, like all houses in France ... it is safe and certain.

Kif-kif at my place. For 30 years, I have not been forced to redo one of my gray PVC drains (2 dozen in my building). My DHW (domestic hot water) is DHW (solar domestic hot water supplied by 40 m2 of sensors without antifreeze which drain automatically when the circulator stops). It does not exceed 50 ° (enough to burn yourself). After being in contact with the sink or sink it drips lukewarm, so no bp. The brief passage of boiling water poured from a pan does not alter the flow too much, which does not have time to soften, because PVC is not a good conductor of heat. Problems arise when the heat lasts several minutes or even several hours (in a bubbler for example).
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by jean63 » 28/01/06, 15:10

OK, thinking about it, it is better to abandon PVC ......... 8)
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by rezut » 30/01/06, 15:05

Hello lau
excuse me for the late response but since I don't have a good internet connection at home I take advantage of breaks at work to answer you (while they leave us internet access because we just changed companies and they are in the process of placing locks everywhere (already more personal messaging or ebay and new site day by day)

lau said

Ok rezut! I suspected a little that there was no inconvenience, that's why I insisted. In sheet metal of 2mm it must take a bunch of years before it is pierced! ... especially in Provence, the whole basin is really calcareous.
What do you have as welding gear?


the spad I had it tig welded by my brother and I finished it with a bow (2.5 stick)

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I'm going to try to look for a large diameter beam to do my spad, so the sides are already assembled

why not a reformed fire extinguisher (the bubbler is all done) remains more than putting your exhaust pipe and your reactor inside it is an idea that I have already spent with several and that I will realize as soon as I get some will have found a bus very easy to achieve

I give the idea more easily now than the forum is particularly useful for people who take pains to advance the smilblic and who share their achievements


voila and good tinker
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by Asgard bone tyr » 30/01/06, 19:46

the fire extinguisher is not made of stainless steel and your water will quickly become thick and rusty! :?
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by Former Oceano » 30/01/06, 20:05

It seems to me that some fire extinguishers are loaded with water to spray a water + foam mixture. A priori these should resist oxidation.
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by Other » 30/01/06, 21:33

Hello,
We are far from the rod or (old rods) old pilots

Of course there are beuax fire extinguisher all in stainless steel, I have to recover 3 the capacity is 12 liters in order to make bubblers the sheet is rather thin for welding, but it is shiny chrome.

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by lau » 30/01/06, 23:38

Asgard bone tyr wrote:the fire extinguisher is not made of stainless steel and your water will quickly become thick and rusty! :?


FYI, my installation on my Toyota that you will soon see on the forum at the end of my tests, has a stainless steel bubbler with a grid inside fer which aims to provide "FeO" necessary for the formation of the doping gas (we will say like that). It is a test and I am not saying that I am right, but the rust would not seem useless in the pantone.
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by FRANCK (49) » 18/02/06, 01:23

a cheap and super smooth reactor bar:

the stem of a tailgate cylinder! mine comes from a golf 2.

diameter 8mm usable length 250mm.

ps: be careful to release the pressure by gently cutting the cylinder because it is under pressure. and watch out for oil splash! : Wink:
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by sam17 » 18/02/06, 10:55

I am wondering about your reactor rod. knowing the rods of cylinders are generally chrome (it seems to me), it does not risk in case of oxidation to pass in the engine 'crumbs' of chrome?
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