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Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by Christophe » 01/12/04, 22:33

Do not forget that electricity was discovered by static electricity resulting from the friction of 2 "electrosensitive" materials (I don't know the exact term anymore) ... friction is therefore one of the causes of electricity (electrisation rather) but obviously not the only nor the most effective ...

I do not think that the opposition of flows is at the origin of the electrification / magnetization of the reactor ... and it is still necessary to prove to me that the effect does not exist in unopposed flows ...
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by Camel » 02/12/04, 00:41

Hi everybody !

Well, given the different interventions on this thread, I think I will be able to integrate your remarks in the pdf. I will take this opportunity to rework it a little, in its form, considering that for the bottom (namely characterizing the reactor), we agree. Javascript: emoticon (';)')

This part of the message is addressed to Christophe ...

Regarding the form "IT", I chose the pdf format, because it allows you to mix text and image without problem, in a single document. On the other hand, its revision can only be carried out by its author (me!).

This poses a problem for me, because in my idea, it was a collective work, abounded by those who would be interested.
As things stand, I will be responsible for updating this document.
Having no precise idea on a less centralizing way of doing it, I am willing to take on this, insofar as I don't see myself asking you, Christophe, to take care of it ... the econology site, because of its size and the number of messages, it seems to me to be a huge daily workload for you, so act!

I plan to keep the pdf format for now, which everyone can read, but could also send it in Word (.doc) format if necessary.
Let me know...

Finally, and for everyone, if you think of some things that you think are important to include in the document, do not hesitate to post here, or send me an email at \ [EMAIL=blanc2002@free.fr \] blanc2002@free.fr \ [/ EMAIL \]
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With regard to static electricity, let us not forget that it is the tearing of electrons from a carrier material by the friction of another material. The electrons that have migrated are therefore trapped by the receiving material (hence the name "static charge").

In the case of the reactor, it is known from certain experimenters that a magnetization appears during operation.
This had been mentioned, it seems to me, on the late PMC form.
We know that a free electron, circulating at a speed V, develops a fully detectable and measurable magnetic field. If there is a large flow of particles (case of the reactor), this field becomes detectable with a simple compass. So we could very well measure it with a gaussmeter.
As well as the electric field (with an electrometer).

We can consider that if a plasma is produced during this reaction, the analysis of the electrostatic and magnetic activity could perhaps guide us in our efforts to optimize the reaction, and get out of the "pifometric" mode in the conduct. tests.

I consider that it is time to move on to the concretization phase, since now, all we can do is speculate ad infinitum on theory, when we need tangible elements from experiments in real size to move forward.

I have seen elsewhere on econology that other pantonizers were carrying out a test bench with a heat engine. Perhaps we could join our efforts, and why not, if they agree, centralize at their place the elements necessary for the realization of this test bench ... javascript: emoticon (': rolleyes:')


That's all for now!

Sincerely,
Michel Lathuraz
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by krissg29 » 02/12/04, 00:53

Clarification

friction is therefore one of the causes of electricity (rather electrification) but obviously not the only nor the most efficient


I would rather say that "electricity" is a consequence of friction. And in fact of "electricity", these are electrons which are "torn off" from the rubbing materials and which give electro-magnetism to the rubbed objects: one of the objects has too many electrons compared to the other and the 2 objects can attract each other. If they remain in contact long enough, the excess electrons are found on the one which had lost some and the magnetization disappears. This is the electric current

The magnetism of a magnet comes from the orientation of the magnetic moment of its electrons. An electron that revolves around its nucleus is equivalent to an electric current in a coil: it generates a magnetic field. When the electrons of an atom rather rotate in the same direction, the sum of their magnetic field is not zero and the atom is "magnetic" while being electrically neutral (as many protons as electrons)

Theoretically, the reactor electrification would therefore come from the friction of the gases (intake and exhaust inside and outside the reactor). Knowing that of 2 materials in friction, it is always the same one which loses electrons, it would be interesting to find materials for the tube and the rod of the reactor which supports the electrification of the unit (if it has something to do with plasma production). That is, for example, if the GEET gas tends to lose electrons, the tube should tend to lose even more and the rod will gain more (stories of positive and negative ions for those who remember a little chemistry lessons). It would measure the electrification (the plasma?) With a voltmeter.

And for the electrification by the opposition of the flows, I was wrong (it serves to plunge back into the books).

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