Reactor Gillier Pantone: idea of ​​experience?

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Reactor Gillier Pantone: idea of ​​experience?




by Christophe » 06/12/07, 11:03

Some of you will no doubt find the idea a little crazy, but it may be an interesting experimental way to characterize the ionization of the vapor that can occur in the Gillier-Pantone reactor.

The idea is: make a "motorized" test reactor with a rotating rod. Thus, instead of having a flow on the longest axis, one could simulate friction on the spoke. Obviously it would be necessary to provide a variable speed of rotation (largest possible range) and different "annular" radii.

What do you think?
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by Flytox » 06/12/07, 17:53

Bonjour Christophe

The rotating rod will effectively change the friction / electrification conditions but also possibly create a rotating magnetic field which can influence the displacement / heating of the electrical charges in the rod / reactor air gap.

Very good idea of ​​experimentation, for the realization, there will always be the eternal problem of congestion and to make a hot rotating seal in a hostile environment. Finally if it was easy to understand and to realize, we would not be on this forum... : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 06/12/07, 19:55

The "first" idea (but it can evolve) was to make an assembly independent of an engine, ie a beast "test bench" with a reactor, an engine and some sensors.

Just to see how the electrical potential of the tube varies with the speed of rotation of the rod and the annular space.

The difficulty consists in finding an engine (or a reduction) which goes up "in the revs" (I think that 10 000 / min would not be bad not?)

It would be necessary to be in conditions close to that of an engine at flow speed level ...
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by Other » 06/12/07, 20:58

Hello

I had already thought about putting this in the butt of a turbo, taking advantage of the heat of the turbo, that is to say passing the steam over the smooth side of the cast iron wheel. At 40000 rpm friction is heat
the only problem is sealing between steam and exhaust gas.

On a small assembly with an electric motor to test it should not be too complicated (the vacuum cleaner motors run more than 20000rpm


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by Christophe » 06/12/07, 21:02

Ah thank you for the info!

My parents have an old vacuum cleaner that sucks nothing (but still turns): I will ask for it as a Christmas present :)

We must start by making it simple and improve the bench if we have results. Perhaps we should also plan for pressurization, right?
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by Flytox » 06/12/07, 22:51

Bonjour à tous

Little need to turn the rod so quickly, with one or x small "longitudinal" slits, or shape to be determined (slight spiral etc ...), well studied we may arrive at the same result. 8)

Does friction / electrification increase "only" as a function of the turbulence :?:
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