Pantone engine: scientific explanation translated !!

[Jan Aymar]

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".. Regarding your remark on the flow of an injection pump, I understood that the flow depended on two parameters, the setpoint given by the angle of the pump lever, and the speed engine, knowing that for a given speed, the setpoint varied according to the load of the engine (descent, flat or rise), the idea being that the quantity of go sent into the combustion chambers depends on the work that it must provide .. "
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Bonjour,

About several messages of which I quote a few passages above,
seen on page eleven of this forum ,
and concerning the flow of diesel fuel according to the load or the speed,
it is useful to keep in memory:

That the injection pumps,
whether rotary or in lines,
are equipped with one or other of the 2 main families of regulators,
ie on the one hand the so-called "Mini-maxi" regulators
whose only role is to maintain a minimum speed at idle, and to limit the maximum speed,
and on the other hand the so-called "All speed" regulators
whose role is to maintain a constant engine speed
depending on the chosen position of the foot accelerator or the hand accelerator,
and this whatever the variations in the workload.

In this second case, therefore of the "All speeds" regulator,
it is the regulator which regulates the diesel flow, without intervention of the driver or operator.

It is this type of regulator which equips for example, the injection pumps of all agricultural tractors,
all public works vehicles, all generators, etc. ,
short of all the engines which have an essential need to function at constant speed.

Mercedes cars,
(at least the old models of the 300 D type, because I don't know the recent models) ,
also have the particularity of having an "All speed" regulator made up of
a vacuum membrane,
itself controlled by the suction of the intake pipe.

The "Mini-maxi" regulators, rather equip the engines of the passenger cars.
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[lio74]

Hello,

There is something that intrigues me
Steam + air enters at 103c depending on the stage and leaves at the end of the reactor at 64c
Normally the temperature should increase according to the logic of an exchanger.

suggestion a bit quick ... but at first glance I would be tempted to say: this is proof that there is an endothermic reaction in the annular space of this reactor !!! it is necessary any time that the assembly works ... I have not reread everything, but I do not believe to have seen results on the conso?!? I think it should not be long

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It is true that sometimes in a single rod reactor with well-sized outlet chambers there is a temperature drop at the end of the reactor, or even a rod which cools.
What we find that a reactor (water doping) that works whatever the exhaust temperature, what comes out is held in the 100c
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Andre

for the sizing of the outlet chamber I think back to the diagram of the patent WO 82 of Chambrin with this derivation noted "6", something that was not there on its first assembly and which apparently helps to regulate the T ° and p of the gases to escape ... well I'm off topic there !!!

back to the outlet temperature
I admit that I had just looked at the architecture of this montage and not the little annotations ... it should have struck me like Andre !!! 64 ° C is more too much steam there (at atmospheric p) and then 53 cm of tube it must have condensed a lot in there !!! especially if it is 53cm electrically isolated to measure and there is still 20cm before arrival in the engine ...

in any case this cooling, noted with the color of the rod, is bizard ... there is something going on ... like the temperature rises to the point where the enthalpy (delta H or delta G .. my memories of thermo are a little far ...) of the reaction is reached and therefore this one occurs and absorbs the heat which it needs during the last cm of the annular section!

simple deduction on my part ... and maybe erotic !!!

@ + and good luck for those who resume tomorrow like me

[bob_isat]

or maybe the drop in temperature is just due to the passage of liquid water (mist) into vapor.

vaporization is an endothermic reaction!

[elephant]

I just went for a ride on quanthomme

reading

http://perso.orange.fr/quanthommesuite/ ... idmouv.htm

deserves to spend a few minutes thinking about it

[laurent.delaon]

Hello,

suggestion a bit quick ... but at first glance I would be tempted to say: this is proof that there is an endothermic reaction in the annular space of this reactor !!! it is necessary any time that the assembly works ... I have not reread everything, but I do not believe to have seen results on the conso?!? I think it should not be long

on an assembly it proves nothing at all it can say that there is an error somewhere, and for the endothermic reaction it does not prove anything, except the fact that it cools what is not the same ....

[Christophe]

deserves to spend a few minutes thinking about it

Yes but also: https://www.econologie.com/forums/explicatio ... t2917.html

[Christophe]

With me the links work ... otherwise try the econology mirrors:

https://www.econologie.com/explication-i ... -3522.html
https://www.econologie.com/explication-i ... -3521.html
https://www.econologie.com/explication-a ... -3323.html

[Rantamplan]

you want explanations?




https://www.econologie.com/forums/cavitation ... t3665.html

[the middle]

Hmm all these things interest the world ...
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=193111

[Other]

Hello

This is not an explanation, but rather a question for those who have test fixtures.
As every time the temperature drops it is always the same observation, the results of the summer follow the thermometer down.
Has anyone managed to have the same values ​​as in summer? or at least close, because in my case it is degraded and by a lot, enough that I overcome the injectors or something else?
I tried to reset the summer conditions to the engine
diesel temperature and air intake as in summer it made the engine quieter, but the warm-up is long for use small travels I arrive with the figures of the manufacturer.
(This is not the time to lend my car to a journalist)

I think this is something that one has to work on to have an improvement. I still cannot understand why there is so much difference between summer and winter, there must be other factors, than just the engine, I wonder if a generator that operates in summer and in winter, if there is such a difference?

Andre