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On your water doping, engine running, when you approach a compass of the pipe which leads the water vapor to the collector, do you notice a deviation of this one?

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by Other » 08/02/06, 16:43

Hello,
January 9 in the post above is the first test with the compass on the Chevrolet water doping and it gave nothing.
The second test I electrically insulated the copper pipe with plastic water fittings still nothing.
(I made several steam outlet pipes to test
with union fittings it is easily changed)
The most recent test on the small 125cc engine with a duct made to turn to accentuate the magnetism (if there is one) still nothing

I would not persist in this way, if nothing happens, already very rarely we receive static in this conduit, only when it is electrically isolated, and that the insulators leads to water, have a rather short lifespan, with the heat, (but they don't cost much)
as I did not notice any improvement, I do not insist

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by bolt » 09/02/06, 00:06

Hello

when we look at the magnetization on an iron rod after removing the rod:

from one rod to another, in the same engine (test of different rods) the reversal of the compass is not always in the same place

for stub stems the residual feeding is stronger

but if we measure the magnetization before installing the stub, I notice that it is always very magnetized in advance, with a north-south direction

I already heard that it was necessary to mount the rod to the compass, to the construction, in the right direction (north = delivering side)

on the other hand, stainless steel?

not magnetized at the start, would anyone have seen a stainless steel rod move a compass needle after operating in a reactor?

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by Other » 09/02/06, 05:45

Hello bolt
even if you move the rod with the engine running, either further forward or further back, even simply turning it, the engine changes speed for 15 seconds, to resume its turns?
An aluminum rod works as well as an iron rod.

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by PITMIX » 05/03/06, 14:13

Hello
For my part I have not yet been tested on my reactor but I have done the test on a charge pipe for the refrigerant.
I get 3,2Volt continuous between the tube and my hand. This drops to 0Volt when the fluid no longer passes. I put a compass against the tube, nothing is happening. My tube (flexible) is a hose for hydraulic machine (Aeroquip) so the tube is insulated from the earth. I tested with a grounded copper tube. Nothing is happening either. If you want, take an adjustable wrench in your left hand and approach your compass with your right hand. When the compass is very close to the key it is totally deflected. Ditto with a compressor.
Conclusion all the metals which can be magnetized make deviate the compass whether it is isolated from the ground or not.
I will soon test my compass on my reactor to see if it goes crazy. But on a compressor of 40Cv in 380V this does nothing but deviate from the compass.
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by bolt » 05/03/06, 22:52

Good evening

in fact, what makes the compass move is simply the feeding of the needle of the compass itself which, being magnetized, attracts ferrous metals which are not magnetized in advance
in this case, the needle, balanced on its axis, brings its north (or south) point closer to the metal, while being attracted by the Earth's magnetic north

to push further:
if we place an unloved iron rod in the north south terrestrial axis, so in a magnetic field, it itself becomes slightly magnetized

then to check that it is not magnetized in advance, it is imperative to check it in its placement N / S then S / N parallel to the compass, by moving the compass all the way alongside

when the bar is magnetized (in advance or after having stayed in a "working" reactor) the pole location north of this bar pushes back that of the compass (pole N compass = south magnetic field)

the two forces acting on the needle place it in a position of equilibrium necessarily deviated from the north earth pole

when by moving the compass along this bar, one arrives in front of its south pole, the needle is then attracted (the attraction being increased by the simple attraction "magnet of the needle" / "material of the bar" )

the deflection of the needle takes an equilibrium position on the other side of the "neutral"
neutral which represents the terrestrial S / N position when there is no bar nearby
"neutral" which also represents, during the control, the place of the inversion of the field of the bar

compared to what I said above, it is necessary to reverse the bar, recheck the inversion, and take the central point between these 2 inversion to determine the true point of inversion

to sum up :
the direction S / N = noon
compass placed to the right of the bar looking at the terrestrial North
bar, placed S / N
opposite N of the bar the needle indicates eg. 2 hours
opposite the S of the bar it indicates 10 o'clock
at the point of inversion it necessarily indicates midday
place the bar N / S, S towards the terrestrial north, and start again

note that if the bar is very magnetic, the opposite direction cannot be controlled
instead of having for extremes: 3 hours or 9 hours, the needle squarely follows the direction of the bar and goes around

but in this case the influence of the original metal is negligible compared to the magnetic field of the bar, and the only S / N orientation with north of it towards the terrestrial north is enough

have fun

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by PITMIX » 20/03/06, 05:30

Hello
I do not yet dare to vote this poll because I still do not have positive results with my system. But yesterday I approached a compass of my exhaust pipe at the height of the reactor and nothing happened. No deviation of the needle.
If I manage to get a fuel economy I would repeat the experience.
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by lau » 20/03/06, 15:57

Pit, the magnetization of the reactor visible on the compass is not a legend. I could see it on my box after a few hours of running in; and yesterday I could also see it on a pantonized tractor that I went to see. The compass reacts after a few minutes of operation; curious thing, on this tractor we followed the exhaust pipe before the spad and after the spad: the needle kept changing direction.
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by PITMIX » 20/03/06, 20:52

I'm not saying the opposite, but since I don't have proof that my reactor is working, I can't vote yes or no on the poll. For the moment my compass is not moving and if the compass is proof that the reactor is working, then mine is not working.
It's a shame that there is only one vote in this poll because it could give an idea.
André to a working reactor, however, he voted no, so that compass does not react.
Other experimenters who have a working reactor should vote.
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by laurent.delaon » 20/03/06, 21:36

Hello ,
me I have a doping with water but I have no reactor I do how?
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good should not be polarized on megnetism: when one heats a steel bar it is mgnetise ...; the Chinese knew it a long time ago and c like that he was doing compass needles ... well before christophe dove and the stem of Mr Pantone!

I do not neglect magnetism in the potential explanations but I simply put it aside in the file: PhenomesInutile while waiting better ...

This phenomenon does not affect what happens with water.
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by lau » 20/03/06, 23:06

who tells you that it was André who voted no?
At the beginning of my prototype, I was disgusted there was no magnetism, christophe put this poll and I voted no! Image
and now the compass reacts!
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