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by Capt_Maloche » 26/08/08, 10:11

Remember that these (important) results are sensitive on "old" vehicles equipped with naturally aspirated engines.

and that nobody has achieved such results on HDI, DCI and equivalent engines, except 5 to 10% with the addition of SP95 in the GO

1200Kg vehicles today consume less than 5L / 100

the last IV spaces of 1800KG with their wind resistance are around 7,5L / 100

The palm seems to return to PSA engines
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by Christophe » 26/08/08, 10:33

Capt_Maloche wrote:Remember that these (important) results are sensitive on "old" vehicles equipped with atmospheric carburettors.


I hope Bucheron won't read you ... carburetor and diesel ...

We still have very little experimentation on high pressure, and for good reason ... it's too recent.

If the phenomenon consists of ionization and thermolysis in the room, there is no reason that we do not have the same gain (in%) with an Hdi ...I even believe that the room temperature is on average higher on Hdi (please correct me) ....

However: vehicle power is also increasing and it is mandatory to exceed a certain load to obtain a doping effect. It may be more because of this than the principle of high pressure that we have less results on modern diesel ...
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by dreamer » 26/08/08, 10:44

Capt_Maloche wrote:Remember that these (important) results are sensitive on "old" vehicles equipped with atmospheric carburettors.

and that nobody has achieved such results on HDI, DCI and equivalent engines, except 5 to 10% with the addition of SP95 in the GO

1200Kg vehicles today consume less than 5L / 100

the last IV spaces of 1800KG with their wind resistance are around 7,5L / 100

The palm seems to return to PSA engines



So that would be why this process does not seem to break through at the level of the manufacturers?
(and for the loss of power side?)

Finally, I say that but PSA is currently looking into it right?
When do you think we can expect results?

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by Christophe » 26/08/08, 10:45

Do not read my answer just before ...and 5 to 10% for an automobile constructor it's HUGE ...
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by dreamer » 26/08/08, 10:55

Christophe wrote:Do not read my answer just before ...and 5 to 10% for an automobile constructor it's HUGE ...


I had read ... but I do not understand that all manufacturers do not jump on it?
It would explode their sales in these times of "green marketing" right?
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by Christophe » 26/08/08, 11:11

Hey dreamer, we have already done 1000 times around the question ... the simplest is to ask them right? You say that PSA is on it ... is that you have your entries right?

You will have some answers here:
https://www.econologie.com/industriels-e ... -3669.html
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by dreamer » 26/08/08, 15:44

Okok thank you
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by Christophe » 25/09/08, 16:48

Here is an email received by Pierre Langlois who is the author of this study: https://www.econologie.com/forums/synthese-r ... t3797.html

He is currently preparing a book where econologie.com will be cited. I am not sure that the book is available in Europe (it is from Quebec. I will keep you informed.

Here is his site: http://www.planglois-pca.com/

I reread this morning Mr. Rochereau's document on the ionization of water vapor, which I had already read in another form.

Regarding this theory I have a few comments.

1- If there is formation of hydroxide there is also formation of hydrogen

2- But you did not detect hydrogen in your thesis at the end of the Pantone system

3- Armstrong's machine, which I know well, is insulated by glass feet but not the Pantone reactor

4- the charges accumulated in the water vapor would have ample time to be neutralized before entering the engine

But admitting that hydroxide and therefore hydrogen are formed, the Gillier Pantone reactor would then be akin to the Plasmatron developed at MIT in the 1990s. The researchers of this renowned institution describe in their patent (A. Rabinovich, DR Cohn and L. Bromberg, Plasmatron-internal combustion engine system, US patent 5,425,332, granted June 20, 1995. Viewing at http://patft.uspto.gov.) a plasma reactor which produces hydrogen from a mixture of water and petrol using an electric discharge supplied by the vehicle's alternator. These researchers explain the reduction in consumption by the presence of hydrogen, which increases the speed of propagation of the flame in the combustion chambers, promoting better combustion, and by the fact that the octane number is increased. .

In short, government laboratories will have to verify all of this. Here, in this regard, an extract from my book:

“It goes without saying that it is important to validate the different hypotheses by a detailed study in well-equipped laboratories, where qualified scientists work. BUT IT MUST BE DONE, the current situation of the planet, and the imminent decline of oil production, do not allow us to take any technology lightly, especially when several hundred people have transformed their tractor or their car and saw the benefits. ”

Cordial greetings


Pierre Langlois, Ph.D.
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by CKTM » 26/09/08, 11:26

And your boyfriend Langlois P from Canada, he is the cousin of Langloi G from Canada from voitureh2O (A new scam, roll on the water)

Is everyone called Langloi (s) in Canada and working on the same subjects?

It smells of heat, all that

We are missing only one new Utopia technology in France (or in Belgium)
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