To all those who have experienced the water doping

[campadebulsance]

last precision to ANDRE

Regarding the reactor ... the rod was machined at the two ends ... (I'm a turner ... it helps)
the welding points are passed there too
the centering is perfect and the ends are tapered!


THANK YOU ALL !!!

[PITMIX]

I know that the reversal of the direction of the fluids would considerably improve the heating of the reactor but do not you think that a good insulation could avoid him to reassemble everything.

Some reactors are mounted against the direction but derived from the exhaust (it's not great either) yet it works. Theoretically an assembly with a reactor in a derivative pipe should heat less than a reactor in the exhaust since the gases will pass by the easiest way therefore not by the reactor.

[Other]

Hello campadelbusans

It does a lot of things yet all seems (normal)
For the 3/4 pipe (pipe) with a 14 mm rod normally this is a 1/2 pipe 15mm or 16 mm internal pipe, unless the tube is very thick,
For machining it is preferable that the rod is not aerodynamic, a square cut with a slight chamfer is preferable, this will create turbulence in the narrow passage rod tube.
for the length of the rod in the tries in 100% panton the minimum could go down to 80mm, but when I applied this to water doping it was not very good, I had a rod of 19mm and 152 long and 30% results in my best
when I changed the rod 19 mm and 100 mm long the result we lower (there may be another factor, but the 30% is gone)
I will revise everything soon on diesel
For the petrol vehicle the rod is 200 mm and it works quite well despite the short trips.

if your bubbler and inaccessible (welded cover) places a good filter in the steam outlet duct, something fine to limit the drops, just steam in micro drops.
Start with the easy stuff, after that can take a lot of work and not guaranteed that it works.
We have bell sounds that certain assemblies all made in the same way work less well on certain tractors and well on others? that's why it would be interesting to know why
it does not work.

Andre

[PITMIX]

Of course the day I find out why my system is not working it will be a revolution
And there finally I will deserve my title of "supreme" or "expert".

[campadebulsance]

my reactor body is a 15 / 21mm pipe ...
which makes 1/2 inch
in any case, I have the necessary game "for proper functioning"!

I'm not used to speaking in mm ...

my next construction will be a reactor made entirely of inconel

I think the reaction is directly related to the material we use to make the reactor ... (at least 50 percent)
the inconel which contains more than 70 percent of nickel (its would be ideal)

however very expensive and difficult to machine

[campadebulsance]

I will try what you said André, the solutions are not far away .....

merci!

[PITMIX]

Sometimes I wonder if the thickness of the tube 15-21 is not too important. I use the same. Compared to the thickness of the exhaust pipe it is enormous.
In the center of the reactor tube I wonder if the temperature is high enough.
It is also perhaps what creates the inertia effect of the reactor of which the experts speak. Thicker therefore longer to heat and also longer to cool.
Did you test different reactor tube thickness?

[Other]

Hello pitmix

The thinnest I have tried is 2mm thick, but normally I use the tubes I find, I adapt the rod accordingly.
The inconvenience when welding a thin pipe is more delicate and it makes an internal bump (if you do not place a tight rod in the tube before welding) The internal bump must be machined to allow the centering nipples to pass without what the rod will have play and vibrate while rolling, it is for this reason that
that at one end of the rod I weld a small 6mm rod
at the rod and at the body of the reactor finished the noise of pan at slowdown.

Certainly the heat exchange is less successful in thick tubes, but once the heat has passed through if there is little variation it becomes a little in equilibrium.
You also have to deal with what is found in the trade and the construction process.
Surely there are some panton fitters who try thin tubes?

Andre

[lau]

my reactor body is a 15 / 21mm pipe ...
which makes 1/2 inch
in any case, I have the necessary game "for proper functioning"!

I'm not used to speaking in mm ...

my next construction will be a reactor made entirely of inconel

I think the reaction is directly related to the material we use to make the reactor ... (at least 50 percent)
the inconel which contains more than 70 percent of nickel (its would be ideal)

however very expensive and difficult to machine

Already start making it simple before bothering you with expensive and difficult to work materials. The prototypes at 50 and 60% savings are made of sheet metal and basic stainless steel.
I think it was you who spoke of the tapered nucleus, and from what André says it is not necessarily necessary.
Asgard seems to be doing well and he uses bits of garden hose and drawn iron.
2 people on the forum have made a GV, on their site we understand the work accomplished, beautiful work ... a work of goldsmith!
They worked so well that they even said, laughing, that we drop our bubblers ... did you see their results?
It is not the most beautiful stainless steel spad welded with TIg that works best, I have enough testimonies on this subject.
Now if you absolutely want to machine inconel for your future reactor, we will be curious to know the results compared to a conventional reactor, make your reactor removable so that we can see a difference.
About nickel, a guy has added a grid on his core and says he has average savings of 35% on his car !!!

[Other]

Hi lau

Try to communicate to the address of the guy who made the neon and many other montages, and you will give me news!
I asked him a simple question about the performance of an engine he modified, I had as an answer read the pages of Mr
David, I read them in 2001 and I've come a long way since then.
I understand that he doesn’t want to be hit, but it seems to me that between guys who have done several montages and tries we could talk.

Now what he writes about the probe does not hold water, I have been driving with water doping for over a year
with a Lambda probe (on the Neon it is the same probe as on my vehicle), after having changed it for a BOSCH it does the same thing, that is to say when you put too much water it increases your consumption , because the probe detects a high level of oxygen (I don't know if the oxygen level is really high, but the probe detects it)
Now since I walk with a reduction in water consumption, I will reconnect the probe to see if it does not influence it.
When to run no water while with the water carburetor than with the empty bubbler this happened to me often and the probe still works as well, it permanently connect to an instrument
it is with her that I adjust the ratio.
Whenever I (burn) my probe is when I run on 100LL aviation fuel, I should say rather clogged with lead ...
What you need to know about ratios is that if you want to reduce the nox to the minimum you have to work with a ratio 1 / 14,7 or 0,450 volts probe. the engine is more economical with a 1 / 17,5 ratio
or 0.020 volts but at this ratio the nox increase (each time you walk poor the nox increase.)

As for the hydrogen, I do not know with which instrument he has to measure. At my work they have an instrument that measures all known gases. We use it to go to closed places I would have to measure what comes out of the water doping reactor. That would definitively settle this question.

Hoping that Mr de Grand forge recognizes me I am the guy with the Lycoming engine.

Andre