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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Christophe » 17/06/17, 23:15

izentrop wrote:It still has to stand up


Did you feel targeted? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by izentrop » 17/06/17, 23:29

No, but you answer so quickly that you must not have seen the excellent video of "a laughing world"?

Can you help exilnhonest to rediscover the subject of global warming?
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by izentrop » 07/09/17, 01:31

Nicolas Hulot's desire to oppose the renewal of the glyphosate license in the EU has sparked outcry from farmers, who judgethis essential product for crops, but also for agroecology, the environment and the climate.

Yes, essential for the no-till techniques to gain momentum.
It would be a shame if for a priori baseless, these techniques good for the planet are abandoned.
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by Christophe » 07/09/17, 12:26

izentrop wrote:No, but you answer so quickly that you must not have seen the excellent video of "a laughing world"?


If yes, the first 5 minutes were enough for me to understand the caricature of the message of the author ... obviously it should be remembered that Monsanto does not lobby and does not use villainous methods (we are talking about India or Argentina ??) and that paid trolls do not exist ...

The small editing and the tone used are quite contemptuous ...

The difference between an industrial lobbyist and an environmentalist is that the former has economic interests in his fight ...

We could qualify but all the same, for example what is the economic interest of anti-nuclear activists in France? Almost none, they just want a cleaner and safer France ...

I do not believe that they are paid by the manufacturers of wind turbine ... On the other hand the pro nuke often have (or had) economic interests in the subsidiary ...

I will only cite the example "big as a house" of the association VentDeColère, the most publicized anti-wind association in France and whose founding members are mainly ex-EDF or Areva or Cogema ...

I continue??? : Cheesy:

izentrop wrote:Can you help exilnhonest to rediscover the subject of global warming?


Which?
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Christophe » 07/09/17, 14:14

Monsanto finally did worse than Glyphosate, I named DICAMBA: http://www.courrierinternational.com/ar ... etats-unis

Dicamba wreaks havoc in the United States after glyphosate

Dicamba, a herbicide produced by Monsanto and BASF, tends to fly beyond the fields on which it is sprayed, killing everything in its path. The use of this product, which is said to control weeds that are increasingly resistant to chemicals, seems to have been authorized too quickly.

From Blytheville, Arkansas - Clay Mayes brakes abruptly, jumps out of his Chevy Silverado without turning off the engine and starts to shout against a dogwood tree. The shriveled leaves of the shrub dangle, like tiny broken umbrellas. This is the typical symptom of accidental exposure to a controversial herbicide: dicamba. "It makes me crazy ! shouts the head of culture, gesturing. If it continues like this… ”

“… Everything will die,” finished his passenger, Brian Smith. The damage caused by dicamba in northeast Arkansas and throughout the Midwest (affecting soybeans, other crops, and even trees) is emblematic of an ever-worsening crisis in the American agriculture. Peasants are trapped in an arms race between increasingly powerful herbicides and increasingly resistant weeds.

Dicamba, whose use of a new formula was officially approved in the spring, was said to break this cycle and eradicate weeds in the cotton and soybean fields. This herbicide, combined with genetically modified soybeans to resist it, promised better control of unwanted plants, such as Palmer's amaranth, which developed resistance to common herbicides [especially glyphosate].


In bold the main concern ... for some only because it is a juicy worry for agrochemists ...
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by izentrop » 07/09/17, 20:43

Christophe wrote:The small editing and the tone used are quite contemptuous ...
We can take it like that, but it has done a remarkable job of research.
Dicamba, a herbicide produced by Monsanto and BASF, tends to fly beyond the fields on which it is sprayed
What are these farmers who do not respect the basic rules of spreading.
Authorized in Europe since 91, they had time to try it, right?

He tells anything about this duck.
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by izentrop » 07/09/17, 22:34

"Public policy must be based on proven scientific facts, and not on inflammatory statements", continues the ACC, for whom France's position "goes against the conclusions of many international government agencies which unanimously attest that glyphosate can be used safely. ” https://www.terre-net.fr/actualite-agri ... 29980.html

And it is not because the Belgians have prohibited it that they are right.
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Christophe » 08/09/17, 20:57

izentrop wrote:He tells anything about this duck.


Well obviously you don't know how CourrierInternational works ... which, for the most part, only needs to take articles from foreign newspapers to translate, cross-check and compile them ...

The one I just quoted came from the Washington Post ...
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Christophe » 09/09/17, 01:28

Pfff and it starts again ... on the other hand there is some good information in this article: it is much more biodegradable than I thought ...

It is stable to hydrolysis in water but undergoes rapid microbial degradation in natural surface waters. Some photodecomposition can also occur. Footnote 7 When glyphosate is removed from the water, its strong adsorption on particles makes this easier. Footnote 8 The half-life of glyphosate in surface water after spraying into the forest in Manitoba has been shown to be less than 24 hoursFootnote 9

In the soil, glyphosate undergoes microbial degradation which metabolizes it to an aminomethyl phosphonic acid (AMPA), which then decomposes slowly into carbon dioxide and simple inorganic compounds. Glyphosate is considered to be moderately persistent in soil, with a half-life of 20 to 100 days,
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