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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by Capt_Maloche » 30/05/16, 20:21

Absolutely :D

Well say the "Zautres" there, you have finished fighting like ...... old women in delirium : Cheesy:

Otherwise, the combustion temperature of H2 in the air is 2300 ° C at Patm, and about 3000 ° C in Stoichiometric mixture
Sure that at these temperatures we melt a lot of materials, almost all of them: http://www.proftnj.com/tables.htm

I find it quite nice to directly seal in the concrete block or concrete in 30 seconds :P
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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by Christophe » 30/05/16, 20:43

Yes there are real kids at times ... there are slaps that get lost there! : Cheesy:

Capt_Maloche wrote:Otherwise, the combustion temperature of H2 in the air is 2300 ° C at Patm, and about 3000 ° C in Stoichiometric mixture


Uh when you say Patm you mean in mixture 21% vol. O2 (79% inert gas therefore)? So nothing to do with pressure? :?:
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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by Flytox » 30/05/16, 21:36

Obamot wrote:Better to have an answer to everything than a solution to nothing : Lol:
Capt_Maloche wrote:
izentrop wrote:We rather say this video here, it seems to me.

On the video, the flow is clearly insufficient to make a solder :?

Quite cap'taine, not a specialist in this field, but I saw that at first glance and the preparation of the parts seems really sloppy! It is scary. Honestly I would never have posted such a video.


+1 for video speed and posting.

The heat output is so low / inadequate that the "welder" is not able to melt the filler metal into a ball on top of the pipe.
In addition, it remains so long on the solder that it will evaporate its most volatile constituents, zinc, silver etc ... and this will make the problem worse by increasing the melting temperature of the solder. When the whole area under the flame becomes completely black / crusty like that, it's already dead. You have to dismantle everything, patch up, bare ... and start again with the appropriate heating power.

It is necessary to heat a "large" area of ​​pipe moderately (slightly above the melting temperature of the solder) rather than very strongly (far above the melting temperature) a very small area .... which decomposes and modifies the wettability of the solder.
In comparison with acetylene, we put a bigger nozzle and we hold the torch further so that the gas / flame jet surrounds / heats the whole area "evenly". We can help ourselves by positioning a refractory material behind the solder (if possible not in contact).
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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by izentrop » 30/05/16, 22:07

It is beautiful the agreement between econologists to lend the intentions of some to others.
Not sure that certain ladies would have appreciated certain sexist remarks. Fortunately, this is not the kind of subject that interests them. They are right.
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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by izentrop » 31/05/16, 09:04

Hello,
I made the effort to watch the video in question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le43MP0_dhM

I don't know how to decipher the spoken English, but we see a beautiful staging with a guy in an immaculate white blouse, it gives an impression of seriousness. Have you ever seen such a clean welder?

There is a catch all the same, one sees it regulating the flame at the beginning, not only in flow, but in oxidant / fuel dosage while the electrolyser does not separate the gases. At no time do you see the pipes.

There is nothing exceptional in passing the hand quickly in this way at a certain distance from the hottest point, if however it really does, especially if the flame rate has been lowered before. Easy to fool a video image with the intensity of light.

Edenguard's, there is no cheating. If its flame lacks power, it is quite simply that its "HHO" generator lacks flow. Better this way because the higher the flow, the more fatal the risk of backfire : Shock: .
Besides, he was careful to keep the generator outside.

Now everyone is free to believe what they want, as long as they do not take other careless risks.
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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by Janic » 31/05/16, 12:48

I made the effort to watch the video in question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le43MP0_dhM
Which underlines that you were speaking without knowing, therefore.
I don't know how to decipher the spoken English, but we see a beautiful staging with a guy in an immaculate white blouse, it gives an impression of seriousness. Have you ever seen such a clean welder?
Because with another garment, it would have given more credibility? Furthermore, the indication of this video is not limited to this one, of course!
There is a catch all the same, one sees it regulating the flame at the beginning, not only in flow, but in oxidant / fuel dosage while the electrolyser does not separate the gases. At no time do you see the pipes.
Obviously, you have not yet read the text on Brown! He says to separate the two gases, then bring them together at the outlet of the torch, like any other.
There is nothing exceptional in passing the hand quickly in this way at a certain distance from the hottest point, if however it really does, especially if the flame rate has been lowered before. Easy to fool a video image with the intensity of light.
When you don't want to know anything !!!!
Now everyone is free to believe what they want, as long as they do not take other careless risks.
There, that's where we had to start! : Mrgreen:
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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by Obamot » 31/05/16, 14:10

Yes there are some who love to do things backwards, end at the beginning, begin at the end (which justifies their means): they pretend that they know ... they affirm it ... repeat it without ceases as a rosary, as a reason to exist (?) and eventually will eventually learn when the miracle occurs : Mrgreen: between the two, it's ... how to say ... => : Shock: : Cheesy:
izentrop wrote:The agreement between econologists is beautiful

To get along with a damoiseau and its multiple nicknames, you have to get up early (and happy ...) : Mrgreen:
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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by izentrop » 31/05/16, 15:28

Janic wrote:you haven't read the text on Brown yet! He says to separate the two gases, then bring them together at the outlet of the torch
Output ?

everyone is free to believe what they want, as long as they do not take other careless risks.
Janic wrote:There, that's where we had to start!
Precisely I found or we were talking about this Yul Brown, on a religious site where all the unimaginable virtues of this miraculous gas are praised:
... the two gases, hydrogen and oxygen, can be mixed safely as long as the ratio is strictly maintained at plus or minus 5%. The scientific term that characterizes this mixture is: "stoichiometric". Thus, it can be produced economically, compressed and used safely ...
The mixture does not explode, it implodes ... : Shock:
He places a strip of americium on a brick with small pieces of steel and aluminum, and submits them to its flame for two minutes. After having melted, the metals emit a flash which makes Brown say that the radioactivity is destroyed ... :?:
Associated with a free energy electric generator, another completely free source of energy which is on the point of emerging everywhere, like the permanent magnet generators, the Brown gas generator would make families independent in energy (lighting, heating, gas for cooking and all electricity)
Pow pow pow : Mrgreen:

http://www.parolesdedieu.fr/leau-comme- ... -de-brown/
Obamot wrote:To get along with a damoiseau and its multiple nicknames, you have to get up early (and happy ...)
It sounds like defamation, what do you mean by that?
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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by Janic » 31/05/16, 16:01

janic wrote: you haven't read the text on Brown yet! He says to separate the two gases, then bring them together at the outlet of the torch

Output ?

But no, 1km later, it works much better!
I am not the author neither of the patent, nor of the articles, be satisfied therefore that what is written there, like anyone else. Otherwise, you get a Brown post and do your own experiments (if you know how to use it!)
everyone is free to believe what they want, as long as they do not take other careless risks.

So that's what concerns you! since the beginnings of industrialization of the apparatuses, there does not seem to have been any particular accidents. Only its users can give an informed opinion on the subject: not you, or me, or another non-experimenter.
janic wrote: There, that's where we should start!

Precisely I found or we were talking about this Yul Brown, on a religious site where all the unimaginable virtues of this miraculous gas are praised:
Better late than never!
It is that you are looking badly, this site, like others, only cites that it is religious or atheist has nothing to do with it! moreover in terms of physics experiences, there is nothing unimaginable or miraculous, it works or it doesn't work, and you don't seem to be able to decide the question.
Pow pow pow

Pow, pow, pow, too! :(
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Re: torch Manufacture hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by Obamot » 01/06/16, 10:05

I do not see what that comes to do in this subject, but indeed, Izentrop cannot guarantee that among all the scientists, there would not be some who would be, either agnostic VS others who would have "convictions" personal, whatever their nature (for example religious, apart from their scientific hat)
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