Tips and tricks éconologiques bulk water, energy ...

[Did67]

Otherwise a question I asked myself:
I have a hob with 4 er "plates" (?): 2 gas and 2 electric.
What consumes the most or pollutes the most?
I would like to know so that I can make the most of the 2 that pollute the least :)

By reference to the answer given above, I do not agree. But you have to know what we are talking about: money or energy ???

- the gas has a very poor efficiency: a significant +/- part of the heat "passes by" the pan, bypassing it; this increases if the chosen fire is large in relation to the pan

- it also depends on the plates: induction? halogen ???

With induction, we only heat the bottom of the pan and its contents ... We manage to dose much better (simmer) ... Energetically speaking, it's optimal ...

So in kWh, I think the plates consume less ...

Even if it annoys me because ... nuclear (in France). I continue to use gas ...

[dedeleco]

Answer summarizing very well the insoluble dilemma !!

Induction also has losses, except to isolate the pan with 10 cm of asbestos, rock wool, or glass wool !!

[Did67]

I add a new section: tax savings: I appeal to the team, I lack ideas.

1) We are not going to advise to eat, right ???

2) So:

a) use the tax credits that seem econological: photovoltaics, insulation, wood boilers-pellets-chips, CESI, rainwater ...

So invest in equipment that you think is "eco-friendly" and eligible ...

[to hurry up !!!]

b) consider "voluntary decrease": remember that some products are highly taxed (fuel - TIPP + VAT), others taxed (VAT) ...

So every time I give up consuming "bullshit" that I don't really need, I pay less tax ... [Christmas is coming; how much "bullshit" under the trees? So how much VAT voluntarily - but unconsciously - paid?]

With my wife, we made a "deal": birthday, Christmas, etc: only "symbolic" gifts (a "nothing at all", even a non-commercial product: a self-produced bonsai, picked nuts - rich in Omega 3 = "honey, I take care of your heart" ...

c) the ultimate stage, which I have not reached: reducing your salaried work, gardening, being more self-sufficient and "consuming less purchases in traditional commerce" ...

Who says to reduce his salaried work, says to pay less charges!

Hopefully, for those who are brave, not too silly, curious: it's also about living better, having more fun ... and going squarely below the tax threshold!

[Did67]

Induction also has losses, except to isolate the pan with 10 cm of asbestos, rock wool, or glass wool !!

We are addicted, but:

gas: the flame gives off 100; how much heat the pan and its contents: 50 maybe ??? The other 50 bypass the pan and just heat the air. (As I said, it depends on the right choice of the size of the fire / size of the saucepan; and also of the pace: "fully", it "overflows" more; or not ...); of the 50 that do not go into the air, 40 go into the content and 10 into the pan

[all these figures at random, to illustrate]

induction: 100 consumed; 98 go to the pan and its contents (the plate still warms up a little); and from there, 70 useful go in the contents and 20 go in the pan which gives a little to the air ??? [again, it depends on the nature of the casserole, its size in relation to the content - if you take a 1 kg pan to heat 100 g of butter, the yield will be pitiful]

I think (but I have no "record" or proof) that the second process is energetically more efficient overall.

[clasou]

I put a damper on the interest of the tax advantage for rainwater.
When you see the prices for 300 or 500 l.
Me no tax advantage bought a self-supporting swimming pool 5600l 70 euros filled 4 times this year at 4 euros per m3 all included. Already reimbursed.

Allow to enlarge the garden, to have more harvest, to no longer buy fruit and vegetables.

balance (for me positive)
a + claude

[Christophe]

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Nice list Antoine, but as you see (following answers) it went quite unnoticed ...

I advise you to create 1 subject per type of economy!

It will be clearer and more effective, MP me if you don't know what I mean.

For my part I just twitter your message.

[Gaston]

Otherwise a question I asked myself:
I have a hob with 4 er "plates" (?): 2 gas and 2 electric.
What consumes the most or pollutes the most?
I would like to know so that I can use the 2 that pollute the least

Regarding the answer given above, I do not agree. But you have to know what we are talking about: money or energy ???

And if it is in energy, Primary energy or billed?
If the electricity is produced by a gas power plant, it is better to heat the pan directly ...

[antoinet111]

I just took everyone's answers by incorporating mine, I think it's the idea of ​​the creator of the thread.

too bad it doesn't follow.

also, it is better than those who have questions about a particular thing to create a new post.

[antoinet111]

Put your ideas on the list using the "quote" function:
Update of 01 / 12 / 11

Water savings:

-recovery of rainwater (shower, toilet, machinery, ...)
-fans on faucet
-scale shower head
-Brick in the flush (or bottle)
-outhouse
-lave dishes (well filled)
-stop shower and mixer tap
-shower rather than bath
- ...

Electricity savings:

-computer laptop (30watts) rather than big PC (200 watts on average)
-Management of the power of the big PCs
-Low consumption bulbs, fluorescent tubes placed lower and with a reflector, localized lighting
- rigorous management of the extinction of stores at 22 hours and signs
-insulation and programming (electric heating)
-automatic lighting delayed in certain rooms
-devices on standby to "turn off" (remote controlled sockets or multiple sockets with switch)
-dry linen outside rather than in the dryer
- rigorous management of the lighting in the offices (night extinction, ...)
-modification of corridor lighting (presence detector)
-better management and distribution of public lighting (I speak for the Belgian motorways, we come to it)
-recovery of the energy of fridges in supermarkets,
-confinement of the fridge zone (Colruyt already practices it in Belgium)
-look out less bullshit on TV and make love + often
-Teach the children to turn off the lights and close the doors.
-wind turbines
solar hot water
-management of off-peak hours
-to reduce the electric subscription and use an offloader
-disconnect phone chargers
- ...


Heating savings:

- electronic management - programming
-management of heating of public and industrial buildings
-modernization of the installations: high efficiency boilers
removal of heating corridors
-heating electric heater in the bathroom in 1 / 2 season in the bathroom
-electric booster heater when staying alone at the office during the day
-insulation
lowering of ceilings
-optimisation of the choice of his dwelling (type + location)
- geothermal energy
-solar
-wood (optimization of the yield: inverse fires, ...)
-sweater?!
has an airlock in front of the shops and in front of the houses
-veranda
-Turmount wall
-mount automatic door closers (cheap: 2 pitons, a string, a PET bottle filled with sand)
-diagnose a thermal diagnosis:
> thermal camera
> laser thermometer
> blower door (Blowerdoor, infiltrometry)
> ...
-connecting dishwasher and washing machine to the water heater
-isoler the hot water pipes
solar hot water
-fire ignition in top-down
-Silicon the doors and windows
-Improve the exchange of an insert blower
- ...


Gas savings:

-use the microwave rather than the gas stove for his coffee (to see ...)
- wash your hands with cold water
-heating / isolation / etc ...
- domestic methanisation
solar hot water
- ...


Fuel savings:

-conduct smoothly
-apprehend the braking
-check the tire pressure
-better management of travel: reservations, shopping list, -phone, internet,
-4 X9 hours work week
-change of suppliers
-Regionalization of the tours, take his sandwiches
-use of public transport (school, work, ...)
-use of feet, bike, carpool
change of vehicle (old and economical, not new)
- to put the air conditioning less strong (23 ° in summer, 18 ° one catches colds)
-pantone
- magnets
-WITH
-water enrichment
- ...


Material savings:

-choice of strong and durable items
-house in recycled or ecological materials (straw, wood, ...)
paper recycling, installation of a photocopy box missed near the -photocopieuse
- regular attendance at the container park (recycling)
- diligent practice of sorting waste
- ...


Practical life :

ecological cleaners
-yogurt maker
-washable
washable protections or mooncups (menstrual cup silicone or rubber)
-steam cleaner
- Defrost freezer
-vegetable garden
- ...


Tax savings:

-
- ...

Money savings:

- repair yourself, car, household appliances, ...
-make a neighborhood association to obtain a purchasing card in a wholesale store,
-Discuss around you to know the good plans of each
-remove body wipes, care, cleaning of toilets and floors
- ...

[antoinet111]

Put your ideas on the list using the "quote" function:
Update of 04 / 12 / 11

Water savings:

-recovery of rainwater (shower, toilet, machinery, ...)
-fans on faucet
-scale shower head
-Brick in the flush (or bottle)
-outhouse
-lave dishes (well filled)
-stop shower and mixer tap
-shower fast rather than bath
- ...

Electricity savings:

-computer laptop (30watts) rather than big PC (200 watts on average)
-Management of the power of the big PCs
-Low consumption bulbs, fluorescent tubes placed lower and with a reflector, localized lighting
- rigorous management of the extinction of stores at 22 hours and signs
-insulation and programming (electric heating)
-automatic lighting delayed in certain rooms
-devices on standby to "turn off" (remote controlled sockets or multiple sockets with switch)
-dry linen outside rather than in the dryer
- rigorous management of the lighting in the offices (night extinction, ...)
-modification of corridor lighting (presence detector)
-better management and distribution of public lighting (I speak for the Belgian motorways, we come to it)
-recovery of the energy of fridges in supermarkets,
-confinement of the fridge zone (Colruyt already practices it in Belgium)
-look out less bullshit on TV and make love + often
-Teach the children to turn off the lights and close the doors.
-wind turbines
solar hot water
-management of off-peak hours
-to reduce the electric subscription and use an offloader
-disconnect phone chargers
Fill the freezer as much as possible (even with water bottles)
- ...


Heating savings:

- electronic management - programming
-management of heating of public and industrial buildings
-modernization of the installations: high efficiency boilers
removal of heating corridors
-heating electric heater in the bathroom in 1 / 2 season in the bathroom
-electric booster heater when staying alone at the office during the day
-insulation
lowering of ceilings
-optimisation of the choice of his dwelling (type + location)
- geothermal energy
-solar
-wood (optimization of the yield: inverse fires, ...)
-sweater?!
has an airlock in front of the shops and in front of the houses
-veranda
-Turmount wall
-mount automatic door closers (cheap: 2 pitons, a string, a PET bottle filled with sand)
-diagnose a thermal diagnosis:
> thermal camera
> laser thermometer
> blower door (Blowerdoor, infiltrometry)
> ...
-connecting dishwasher and washing machine to the water heater
-isoler the hot water pipes
solar hot water
-fire ignition in top-down
-Silicon the doors and windows
-Improve the exchange of an insert blower
-thermostate the ventilation of the insert
- to make insulating curtains
- ...


Gas savings:

-use the microwave rather than the gas stove for his coffee (to see ...)
- wash your hands with cold water
-heating / isolation / etc ...
- domestic methanisation
solar hot water
- ...


Fuel savings:

-conduct smoothly
-apprehend the braking
-check the tire pressure
-better management of travel: reservations, shopping list, -phone, internet,
-4 X9 hours work week
-change of suppliers
-Regionalization of the tours, take his sandwiches
-use of public transport (school, work, ...)
-use of feet, bike, carpool
change of vehicle (old and economical, not new)
- to put the air conditioning less strong (23 ° in summer, 18 ° one catches colds)
-pantone
- magnets
-WITH
-water enrichment
-to make the parcel-parcel
- ...


Material savings:

-choice of strong and durable items
-house in recycled or ecological materials (straw, wood, ...)
paper recycling, installation of a photocopy box missed near the -photocopieuse
- regular attendance at the container park (recycling)
- diligent practice of sorting waste
- ...


Practical life :

ecological cleaners
-yogurt maker
-washable
washable protections or mooncups (menstrual cup silicone or rubber)
-washable
-steam cleaner
- Defrost freezer
-vegetable garden
drink the tap water
- ...


Tax savings:

-
- ...

Money savings:

- repair yourself, car, household appliances, ...
-make a neighborhood association to obtain a purchasing card in a wholesale store,
-Discuss around you to know the good plans of each
-remove body wipes, care, cleaning of toilets and floors
- smoke your food and prepare it yourself (pâté, sausages, ...)
- ...