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Re: Homeopathy metaphorically explained for dummies




by pedrodelavega » 24/07/17, 19:32

Janic wrote:if you are interested in homeopathy, the same thing, ask the professionals of this profession, there are some everywhere in France.
As usual, everything and its opposite in the argument: : Arrowd:

Janic wrote:It's like asking nuclear, chemical and other specialists what they think of their job! They are not suicidal or they end up at the ANPE! The opinion of the opponents is much more interesting since it presents "the dark side of the force"
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by Janic » 24/07/17, 20:39

janic wrote: if homeopathy interests you, same thing ask professionals from this profession, there are almost everywhere in France.

As usual, everything and its opposite in the argument:

Even limited in your reflections!
So I resume! The baker is and remains the most competent in the art of baking (or takes any profession it is the same for all)
janic wrote: It's like asking nuclear, chemical and other people what they think of their job! They are not suicidal or they end up at the ANPE! The opinion of the opponents is much more interesting since it presents "the dark side of the force"

So I continue: if we ask the baker what he thinks about his job, he will defend it with strength and conviction because he is not suicidal. But if this baker makes white bread with industrial flour, he will not have the skills to judge another who will make organic sourdough whole bread and it is the consumers who will ultimately decide what they prefer, Si and only SI both products are available.
The opposition H and A comes from the fact that A recommends that he be the only one who can make real bread and that he therefore thinks he is right since most of the other bakers make industrial flour bread. But if he wants (or rather the farmers and millers) to impose his only products on the market with penalty to the key for the dissidents; in any culture, this is called totalitarianism, except for industrial white flour aficionados. As long as A denigrates organic wholemeal bread, and is incompetent to know how it is made and used, it will only discredit itself among the general public since it is more and more in demand for organic wholemeal bread.
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Re: Homeopathy metaphorically explained for dummies




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by perseus » 06/10/18, 08:28

Hello,

Well, I hadn't hit, the granules are dried. Need a memory of the sugar in the loop?

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by Janic » 06/10/18, 09:38

Well, I hadn't hit, the granules are dried. Need a memory of the sugar in the loop?
There is an important difference between evaporating and dry matter. To obtain a truly dry material, it must be passed through the oven at 550 °
So: "Stale bread and fresh bread have roughly the same composition. In five days, fresh bread lost 1 to 5 hundredths of its water, but it becomes stale even in an atmosphere saturated with humidity: we do not yet know the cause of this singular transformation.
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by perplex » 06/10/18, 10:11

A few years ago I was one of the skeptics of Quebec, and in particular an experience of homeopathic suicide, in short it did not work ... : Lol:

if we consider that the human except in serious cases can be treated alone, homeopathy is a useful placebo ... Certainly less expensive and especially without danger unlike all the official drug filth.

I do not see the point of delisting, it would even be the opposite.

It's like banning games of chance, (lotto, poker, pmu etc) no serious chance, and yet the dream is there, a human who no longer dreams becomes dangerous ...
Understand who can (Jesus),comme d'habitude (Claude François) : Lol:
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by Christophe » 06/10/18, 12:02

So Vegans can't consume oscillococcinum? : Mrgreen:
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by Janic » 06/10/18, 12:27

So Vegans can't consume oscillococcinum? : Mrgreen:
in theory: yes! this gives rise to debates on their forums. but as at the same time, they accept animal experiments and therefore vaccines like drugs, they are not with a contradiction! :x
A few years ago I was one of the skeptics of Quebec, and in particular an experience of homeopathic suicide, in short it did not work ... : Lol:
I saw the video! as stupid behavior one does not do better!
if we consider that the human except in serious cases can be treated alone, homeopathy is a useful placebo ... Certainly less expensive and especially without danger unlike all the official drug filth.
If you don't consider cancer to be serious, then obviously homeopathy becomes a useful "placebo".
I do not see the point of delisting, it would even be the opposite.
This is another aspect of the problem where the state is looking to save money by candlelight, but since around 40% to 60% of the population uses H and they are voters, reimbursement can continue without impacting the SS. which represents 500 billion, including 200 billion for the disease, or 18,8 billion for reimbursement of medicines, including 55,7 million for H.
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Re: Homeopathy metaphorically explained for dummies




by perplex » 06/10/18, 14:01

@Janic

I almost agree with you 100% but not at all for the same reasons, it will always amaze me :)

A few years ago I was one of the skeptics of Quebec, and in particular an experience of homeopathic suicide, in short it did not work ... : Lol:
I saw the video! as stupid behavior one does not do better!


Crazy this is your point of view, I found it downy at the time, and above all very useful, the first experience showing the ineffectiveness of H on people totally closed to the concept...
Then there is hysteria, hypnosis, and especially the argument of authority of the prescriber, it is the latter the problem and at the same time the solution.

If you don't consider cancer to be serious, then obviously homeopathy becomes a useful "placebo".

There it is anything, but cure cancer with a glass of water why not ...
The best medicine is the body itself, observe the effectiveness of fasting for example ...

If an individual think that the H can bring him, a relief, any healing, a big bravo without restriction ....
Religions invented prayers (same fight), you are probably starting to see where I am coming from.

In any case, it will be necessary to die of something with always the same tune "Believe or Know"

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by Janic » 06/10/18, 15:47

I almost agree with you 100% but not at all for the same reasons, it will always amaze me
It's in order of things. Compare that to politics and its different parties. Everyone has a different view on how to govern LA France, despite ways of looking at this governance and often at odds with each other. And no sector of our societies escapes it!
A few years ago I was one of the skeptics of Quebec, and in particular an experience of homeopathic suicide, in short it did not work ...
I saw the video! as stupid behavior one does not do better!
Crazy this is your point of view, I found it couillus at the time, and especially very useful, the first experience showing the ineffectiveness of H on people completely tight to the concept .. [*].
When I say stupid it is related (if we are talking about the same thing) to these attempts at poisoning by homeopathy. Indeed, a diluted "poison", at minimum dose imposed by French law (1 / 10.000 °) 2CH, does not present any risk in itself including by swallowing a whole tube of these granules. You have to know nothing about the dilution system to indulge in this circus number.

Then there is hysteria, hypnosis, and especially the argument of authority of the prescriber, it is the latter the problem and at the same time the solution.
Argument rehashed at will, but worthless, see below
Substantive employment, PSYCH. A moron (employed alone or with a qualifier). Person whose IQ is less than 80. A light, medium, deep moron. Synon. backward, abnormal, fool, silly.
That is to say whose reasoning is that of a small child
If you don't consider cancer to be serious, then obviously homeopathy becomes a useful "placebo".
There it is anything, but cure cancer with a glass of water why not ...
Do not mix everything up :
Or what is considered is the role of the H, and she alone,
or it is a comparison with other therapies.
In this case it is not a question here THAT of H vis-à-vis certain pathologies including cancer, in this case.
The best medicine is the body itself, observe the effectiveness of fasting for example ...
Of course! but fasting is not a medicine (in the medical sense of the term)
If an individual believes that H can bring him relief, any healing, great bravo without restriction ....
This is valid for any treatment! Do you know (yourself, for example!) A single patient who would not believe in the treatment that his allopathic doctor will give him? So if some believe, why not others!
Religions invented prayers (same fight), you are probably starting to see where I am coming from.
Not being religious, it is up to religious systems to respond to you.
In any case, it will be necessary to die of something with always the same catchphrase "Believe or Know"
Exactly ! when a person is "sick" (no matter what disease for that matter) what does he know about his pathology? Little or nothing, so she defers to the great officially graduated guru who, despite some knowledge, does not know everything and is reduced to believe that BP will bring him the miracle remedy long awaited and which made the success vaccination, for example ... you see where I'm coming from! : Cheesy:

[*] once again, this shows the immense ignorance of these jokes. The effectiveness of a product is not measured in the public square with a few characters who want to make the buzz on youtube (but it is their right) but in a scientific way and carried out by competent specialists, not amateurs who have studied nothing about the system involved.
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