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by Ahmed » 17/11/16, 20:51

It is all the same curious that Americans can be against immigration. Would they suffer from amnesia? : roll:
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by izentrop » 18/11/16, 00:12

Ahmed wrote:It is all the same curious that Americans can be against immigration. Would they suffer from amnesia? : roll:
The Trump team surely, but this is not the case for the majority of Americans, many of whom abstained from voting, because some did not want to give their voice to a facho and others to a woman . Besides the number of voters, it is Hilarie who would have won the election.
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by Remundo » 18/11/16, 11:14

the election of Trump was done on the rejection of the elites more than on his personal qualities.

Of course, it was his independence of speech, his "frankness", and his own money that drew votes.

At the same time, Hillary Clinton was caught up by her all kinds of shenanigans against Bernie Sanders and internationals, and people (even Americans!) Are full of it on Wall Street, lobbies dripping with dirty dollars, and imperative wars. yankees around the world ... Trump was also (but not only) the candidate of the arm of honor for all this.
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by Gaston » 18/11/16, 11:26

That's what's great: Trump has managed to pretend that his dollars don't come from Wall Street or any other source in the system ...

Certainly part comes from his gains on reality TV : Mrgreen:
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by izentrop » 18/11/16, 14:33

Remundo wrote: people (even Americans!) have their asses on Wall Street, lobbies dripping with dirty dollars, and imperative Yankee wars all over the world ...
Because you think Tromp (dixit Jean-Marie) will do better?
Fortunately he does not have all the powers because it would be the reign of obscurantism and the return of barbarism. Putin governance is something to envy for no one.
People will eventually realize that they voted with their feet.
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by Earthquake » 18/11/16, 17:22

In any case, it is well received!

Climate: Trump-era lawsuit

Agence Science-Presse, November 18, 2016, 0:27 am

(Science-Press Agency) A lawsuit pitting 21 adolescents and young adults against the US government risks attracting the attention of all those who, for years, have hoped that climate change will go to court.

On November 10, Judge Ann Aiken, of the Oregon court, authorized the hearing of the Juliana vs United States case: the plaintiffs, aged 9 to 20, allege that the federal government, by failing to comply to their obligations to reduce greenhouse gases, violates what they call their fundamental right to a healthy life and a stable climate.

The judge's authorization also came two days after the election of Donald Trump, who has already tweeted that global warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese. The lawsuit is framed and funded by Our Children's Trust, a non-profit organization in Oregon.


http://www.sciencepresse.qc.ca/actualite/2016/11/18/climat-poursuite-justice-lere-trump
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by Earthquake » 18/11/16, 23:50

Truth be told, what we really miss, now that Moore was right and Trump's election is over, is someone to dictate

5 reasons why Marine Le Pen will win according to [enter your name]

After all, if the "same" ones or their look-alikes represent themselves while anger is brewing, there is no reason it should not pass.

The cultural advance of France over the United States in this area is that her dad is finally out of the race, and that we would elect a president, yes, the first woman president of Fraaaance, younger, so for more long time!!

About:
Switzerland already practices Trump's policy

http://www.24heures.ch/suisse/La-Suisse-pratique-deja-la-politique-de-Trump/story/19462804
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by izentrop » 21/11/16, 00:27

And yes, it is a general trend, see worldwide, we are moving towards watered-down fascism for lack of a real reform policy.

After defending himself from influencing the election of Donald Trump, Mark Zuckerberg announced a series of measures to combat the lying articles. Facebook goes to war on disinformation
The best way would be to delete the tool which allows anyone to delete the annoying comment.
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by Remundo » 21/11/16, 10:55

before treating everyone as a "fascist", one should still define this word oh so overused (fascist is the godwin demi-point), and also see those who really practice it behind a mask of democratic benevolence dripping with hypocritical smiles.

Trump is rather mouthed, and has given his vision of things bluntly. We can discuss it, but we have to admit that he was democratically elected for that.

So we respect the suffrage of the people and we will later judge the policy ... Anecdotally, If internally he expels foreigners in an irregular situation, or if he wants to make walls at the border, it is the right the strictest of any sovereign state.

My idea on a more general level: Trump should have no difficulty in doing "less worse" than the decades of warring imperialism and limitless arrogance which led to Daesh, with millions of deaths to the key since decades ... under the blessing of military-media women like Hillary Clinton or Condoleeza Rice, corrupt Generals ... whose teeth are whiter than their designs ...
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by sen-no-sen » 21/11/16, 12:18

Remundo you write:

before treating everyone as a "fascist", one should still define this word oh so overused (fascist is the godwin demi-point), and also see those who really practice it behind a mask of democratic benevolence dripping with hypocritical smiles.


Indeed, the term fascism is used wrongly and through, I noticed on several occasions that most people (ie 9/10) simply do not know what fascism is, as for its precise definition it approaches 95%.

Let's be specific D.Trump is not a fascist, he cannot because it would destroy his wealth.
No, this character is simply a populist which is cleverly put in place using the discontent of the poor and middle classes (mainly white) who suffers from growing inequalities within American society and from a fed up of post modernist benevolence.
We can indeed draw a parallel with the French situation or Marine Le Pen plays the "same role".

Obviously, it would be naive to think that political figures of this kind would represent any solution for peoples and the biosphere.
They represent only a variable of adjustment to dissatisfaction which must be channeled in a theatrical way.


Izentrop you write:

And yes, it is a general trend, see worldwide, we are moving towards watered-down fascism for lack of a real reform policy.


There is indeed a rise in exacerbated patriotism, or even a nationalist revival in different countries - including France - strict resulting from ultra liberalism.
Relocation, technocratic administrative burdens, migrant flows, and record profits from big business necessarily lead a large number of individuals to national withdrawal.
There is, in short, nothing very extraordinary about this, when the flows of energies (here in a more abstract way purchasing power) which cross a society tend to diminish, structures tend to separation by favoring substructures.
If the situation persists, we should therefore see a break-up of the EU.
See about the last intervention of F.Roddier:http://www.francois-roddier.fr/
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