Le Potager du Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio

[Did67]

Let the idea make the way ... All the better.

Sometimes I think it's going fast! On the other hand, it allows me to see evolution in my lifetime - which is not unpleasant. Posthumous glory, I do not think that makes a lot of effects!

[Did67]

Greenhouse vs chassis

I do not know if this is where we talked about it. But in general, everyone goes through it, so nico should find this info:

- yesterday time gray
- that night, it came out
- so this morning, we curled the jelly
- minimum temperature reached in plastic greenhouse: 0 ° C
- min reach under frame with glass pane (straw floor with hay, too): 1 ° C

So glass seems more effective for the greenhouse effect. 1 ° C is not a lot, but moreover, when the weather is bad, I can roll out my thin insulation once the sun is down ... There, I did not do it.

[phil12]

Hello phenos,

Do you think that birds and especially blackbirds are at risk with ferramol?

[Did67]

No definite answer. But:

a) I did not find any "risk phrases" - these are the different "beware of"

View: http://www.agriculture-de-demain.fr/Pes ... isque.html

I can not find the Ferramol sheet right now.

b) I have a lot of blackbirds, who ask me the most: I've never found a corpse

c) the product is described as harmless to hedgehogs and pets, and birds ...

But I have to find a site where there was talk of a DL50 for birds. At very high doses - but it was unclear whether it was the active ingredient or the granule. A bit of internet research to do to clear that.

So that's just a presumption.

[Did67]

That's it, I found the SDS [it's a mandatory, standardized form]. Toxicity to birds is not indicated.

https://www.ducatillon.com/notice-fds-a ... l--473.pdf

Another version:

http://www.agridor.fr/BASE%20DOCUMENTAR ... /SLUXX.pdf

By way of comparison, the SDS of a product considered harmless (potassium bicarbonate), for those that any mention of "LD50" or "toxicity" scares:

http://www.burgundia.fr/wp-content/uplo ... _12-10.pdf

And these data concerning human health for iron phosphate:

http://www.csst.qc.ca/prevention/reptox ... uit=274951

[phil53]

I have read test reports on this product in my case I still wonder if it is toxic to slugs
With or without my seedlings do not survive or very little
Ok other bugs come but still I still have a lot of slugs of different varieties

[phil12]

Thank you Didier for this documentary research!

[guibnd]

I think that the origin of the technique of multiplying the number of seeds comes from this video:

it's phenomenal this way of sowing peas! ; I watched the triptych on youtube.

in the 2th video, the peas are well raised, the rank is very full, (you surprise me with 1kg of pea seeds for a rank of 5m !!) frank, right and well green.

in the 3th video, it gets rough because of a flood that the guy suffered in the night his garden (and his house apparently was a year ago) but we can see the rank of peas emerge from the water!

thank you Carl for this video, I want to test in my garden ...

[Ahmed]

Here's a comment to a video of an Australian permaculator *, commented by Charles Dowding, another permaculture youtubeur, about the minimum work of the soil (aeration with the toothpick or grelinette, without turning):

This year the forked gave 264.7lb of veg, and the no dig (same area) gave 308.7lb of the same veg. The difference surprised me: a higher yield for less effort. Possibly the forking breaks mycorrhizal threads. 612.6lb and the no dig 709.3lb.

For those who are allergic to this language:
This year, the worked band gave 120 kg of vegetables and the one not worked 140 (same zone) of the same vegetable. The difference surprised me: a bigger crop for less effort. It is possible that the riddling of the soil breaks the mycorrhizal network. Over a period of three years, the stirred band gave 227,5 kg, compared to a little more than 320 for that without work.

It is I who underline the explanatory hypothesis advanced by the editor of this text.
* Morag Gamble

[Did67]

Well here it is: just observe with open eyes!

[I have to write this down somewhere, for when the "permaculturalists" bother me ...]

I resume, bold with a little formatting:

Here is a comment by Charles Dowding on a video of an Australian Permactrix, Morag Gamble, about the minimal work of the soil (aeration with a toothpick or grelinette, without turning):

"This year the forked strip gave 264.7lb of veg, and the no dig (same area) strip gave 308.7lb of the same veg. The difference surprised me: a higher yield for less effort. Possibly the forking breaks mycorrhizal threads. Over three years the forked strip has given 612.6lb and the no dig 709.3lb. "

Which means :

"This year, the worked band gave 120 kg of vegetables and the untreated 140 (same area) of the same vegetable. The difference surprised me: a larger harvest for less effort. It is possible that the riddling of the soil breaks the network. mycorrhizal. Over a three-year period, the stirred band yielded 227,5 kg, compared to just over 320 for the unworked one. "

I called it: "Work less to collect more" !!!

And it is not even a question of mounds, with dead wood, etc ... Or other "lasagna" ...