Christophe de Margerie, CEO of Total, died in plane

[Christophe]

End of the mistral affair?

http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/2015/0 ... andale.php

[Remundo]

we have one of these doses of bullshit in France ...

[Christophe]

It hashes: http://www.lepoint.fr/politique/mistral ... 209_20.php

[Remundo]

the Socialist Party greeted Thursday morning "good news, which satisfies both parties "and which allows France to honor" its word and its reputation ". "Parliament will soon receive the exact amount of the reimbursement, already announced as being lower than the initial cost of the two warships

Coming soon to the Benny Hill series?

it's not a good deal. Because the market value of ships is probably much lower! They were designed according to Russian standards. It is also planned to cut up the ships of the most sophisticated Russian equipment: there will remain almost an empty shell therefore after the removal of the family jewels from these warships.

And even if another military fleet acquires, it will be in a position of unprecedented strength to negotiate these boats until the clearance sale.

In addition, these vessels cost to maintain, even at the dock.

Finally it seems that these ships would be of no use for my national navy ... it would however have been perhaps not so bad to have helicopter carriers in the French army.

So we are stupid down the line in this matter: financially, diplomatically, technically, militarily.

[Christophe]

Continuation (and end?) Of the Mistral affair: http://www.lemonde.fr/international/art ... _3210.html

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The Egyptians surely got a good deal!

[Janic]

The Egyptians surely got a good deal!

And they just have to resell them to the Russians and the circle will be complete!

[sen-no-sen]

The Egyptians surely got a good deal!

Not the French taxpayer in any case.
France loses almost 1 billion euros in this diplomatic imbroglio, and Egypt which does not have a round will borrow from a pool of French bank (as for the gusts), the whole assured by the COFACE.

COFACE (French Insurance Company for Foreign Trade) may be officially a private agency specializing in export credit insurance, but it remains for the main part of its activity a subcontractor of the state.
To put it simply: guaranteed by the state ... and by extension the taxpayer.

[Obamot]

It smells of russet ...

The history of the Mistral is certainly interesting and then should we not look at this whole affair with a magnifying glass and with hindsight? It is first and foremost a side effect, of a half-failed "Western-style Putsh" in Ukraine, against a government (admittedly that did not please the West at all) but democratically elected at the time (as much as - correct me if I'm wrong but ... - as much as democracy can be applied as it does not really represent people anyway in the sense of the defense of their legitimate interests and this almost everywhere) .

In short, let us make some connections that we forgot ...

Back to the chronology of highlights: [Edited-corrected on September 29, 2015 by Obamot]

The 09 February 2014, Bernard-Henri Lévy harrangues the crowd in Kiev - Independence Square >>> (he is also abundantly photographed and would have been interviewed on video with gunfire in the background, to pass for a hero who took risks and dramatize the situation, and this through a kind of bet -in the scene of which he is suspected of being the author, to derive a personal benefit.)

The 23 February 2014, Yanukovych "takes refuge" in Russia.

March 2th, 2014 in Maidan, BHL makes violent remarks against the Russians >>> et

March 3th, 2014, Washington suspends its military cooperation with Russia (but the "initial starting point"according to Putin, is the breakdown of cooperation on anti-missile shield);

March 8th, 2014, Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappears forever, without knowing exactly what happened. There were - ironically on board for a plane that went missing without a trace - all the important members of Freescale Semiconductor (20 people from a company "in sight" of military equipment supplier, developing electronic warfare and jamming equipment. for military radar systems) and having connections with the two ex-presidents Bu $ h. Society that was thus beheaded (and for those who know this area, it is a sector where the Russians are far ahead of the West, they have made lots of demonstrations against the American army and the Nordic countries, who have never been able to do anything, having immobilized all their communication, detection and action systems, whether aerial and precisely: maritime, so I would not be surprised by the purchase to dissect French technologies, because honestly, who can believe that the Russians need to buy helicopter carriers from France. To do what? The Russians being perfectly able to make them themselves ...);

March 17th, 2014, financial sanctions are imposed on members of the Putin close circle, as well as visa restrictions;

March 20th, 2014, economic sanctions against Russia are established and implemented;

March 21th, 2014, Ukraine signs the political section of the "Eastern partnership with the European Union", which is pure interference if we take into account the fact of the political instability at that time.

The April 13 2014, Gérard Araux, Ambassador of France (whose country has recently been allocated to the USA but which traditionally has often supported Russia), declares “ Russia seeks to impose its will on the people of Ukraine using disinformation, intimidation and aggression, it is totally unacceptable ". François Hollande calls for a policy of "firm and graduated sanctions"(as other states claim).

The April 24 2015 (or around this date) Russia launches military maneuvers on the border with Ukraine;

The April 28 2015 Westerners say they will toughen sanctions against Russia;

24st June 2014 , "rebels" shoot down helicopter despite truce and Putin is stepping up to the plate on Ukraine-EU deals. But at the same time, he lifts the authorization to intervene militarily in Ukraine, which he had requested in March!

27st June 2014 , Europe and France head, sign "the trade side of the Ukraine Association Agreement with the EU", including Georgia, which is already under strain, and Moldova;

The 15 July 2014, Ukrainian plane from Kiev shot down;

The 17 July 2014, Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 "accidentally shot down by missile" over Ukraine (we still don't know by whom, but we know how and with what) with French, American, Australian, English and Ukrainian on board (not to mention Malaysian, etc.).

The 1 September 2014, "US and NATO plan to deploy ground troops and large-scale naval exercises against 'nameless enemy' >>>

September 03, 2014 France suspends delivery of the first Mistral to Russia >>>

The 07 September 2014 France to provide arms to the putchist regime of "Western Ukraine" >>> including 4 other countries.

September 8, 2014, 21:34 p.m. "The Voice of Russia" headlined: "NATO sows the wind and reaps the Ukrainian storm" >>>

The 10 September 2014 A leading Russian expert claims that: "If Ukraine joins NATO, it will cause a nuclear war"

The 12 September 2014 Putin says: "The situation in Ukraine is used to" revive NATO as one of the key elements of US foreign policy "

The 16 September 2014 Major NATO maneuvers in western Ukraine >>>

The 20 September 2014 US General Philip Breedlove, Commander-in-Chief of "Allied Forces" says there would be: "Russian soldiers in Ukraine" >>>

The 22 September 2014 "The Voice of Russia" headline: Ukraine: NATO exercises make matters worse (OTSC) >>>

The 23 September 2014 Holland says: "what I want is that the sanctions reach their goal, that is to say, convince the Russians to have the separatists stop their operations so that political agreement can be reached"

The 5 October 2015, drones are sent by France and Germany, intended to supervise the implementation of the cease-fire in the east of Ukraine >>>

The 9 October 2014 Russia seeks clarification on delivery of French Mistrals >>>

The 12 October 2014 tactical withdrawal of Russians from the Ukrainian border >>>

The 14 October 2014 "Russian troops leave Ukraine" says John Kerry >>>

The 17 October 2014 Russia, Ukraine approach winter gas supply agreement >>>

The 20 October 2014, "accidental" crash of Christophe de Margerie's plane, CEO of Total (of which it is known that the group has accelerated its investments since 2000 in the natural gas sector).

Without making any paralogism, the crescendo of the events of this chronology is sufficiently telling, I believe ... [end of the ed.]

Where is the investigation into this crash ?! Bah ... Everyone forgot ...?
It was never very clear what happened on this track, or what happened to the "culprits" ...
Was it really "accidental", should we not ask the question again?

The rest we know, the Mistral, coughed, coughed, I am of the opinion that in order not to play the game of these bastards who want to bring war to Europe and to destabilize it continually (I have listed them in another wire >>> and honestly that raises questions ...), it would be good for us (Europeans), give a little peace to Russia, which did absolutely nothing to us!

[sen-no-sen]

so I would not be surprised by the purchase to dissect French technologies, because honestly, who can believe that the Russians need to buy helicopter ships from France. To do what? The Russians being perfectly able to make them themselves ...);

It was a diplomatic gesture from Russia, a hand stretched out in a way, to which we responded with a stretched finger ...

The BRICS block (Brazil Russia, China, India South Africa) is tending to consolidate in the face of the rise in power of the nations that compose it. On the other side, the BAO (American-Westernist) block (United States + commonwealth and Israel) tends to lose its hegemony, in particular due to the numerous (calamitous) overthrow of the regime in recent years.

For a long time France (under the Gaullist impulse) had played a buffer role between the USA and the USSR.
This policy finally slowly drifted (especially since the election of N. Sarkozy) towards a rapprochement of the BAO block.

With this order, the Russians wanted to maintain a partnership and bring France back to the position it had long defended, hardly lost ...

[Obamot]

If you mean by that that NATO has changed its role, and is now involved in "offensive crusades" (whereas historically it is an organization whose goal is "to ensure the common defense of its members, against external threats"). So I'm totally with you.

Or more precisely, NATO by the voice and the armed arm of its master, is playing the pyromaniac firefighter (I mean not unanimously, but certain circles of influence).

And in this case it is clear that we are witnessing a situation of encirclement and isolation of Russia. That's what I'm saying, it would be worth leaving peace to the Russians, compared to the acts of the BAO, they are rather "nice" after all ... (Barely a political assassination or two ...)

Yes, to understand something there you have to take a step back. It's Zbigniew Brzezinski >>> who had notably declared before 9/11, that "without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire in Eurasia"(or something ...) we see that the cold war is not over on the other side of the Atlantic and that the old demons have been pursuing them for more than 30 years ...

Well, instead of the current gignols, I wonder why de Villepin did not run the presidential campaign ...
(I think I know Ahmed's answer)