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by dedeleco » 26/03/12, 14:41

three mathematicians are working on the digitalization of engine operation

they are wasting their time !!
They would do better to assimilate the Lagrange and Hamilton equations, to realize the errors, which are easily amplified in a discrete simulation, because the discretization easily loses the conservation of energy and therefore the simulation will prove absolutely nothing at all !!!

Only a real system giving perpetual energy, will be demonstrative, not calculations and simulations, which well done conserve energy !! .

You will not be the first, who in their calculations or simulation lose without realizing it, the conservation of energy, and claim to have an over-unit motor on their paper !!
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by RealWheel » 26/03/12, 15:46

dedeleco wrote:
the global violation of Newton's 3rd law (law kept locally between two adjacent rooms)

fundamental incompatibility between these two ends of sentences !!!
So an absurdity of calculations, with basic inconsistencies in the starting hypotheses and calculations !!

If we can see and read these very detailed calculations, it will be quickly visible !!!

It reminds me, on liquid crystals, almost 40 years ago, 30 pages of heavy and long calculations, false with certainty, without doing them, just by looking at the beginning and the end, inconsistent with each other !!
The interested, proud, left to find his mistake a good month after !!!


I have just defined the concept of a propulsion engine with rotating masses which makes it possible to create a constant unidirectional force. Again, it is possible to amplify the input energy by a factor of 800. The motor has a symmetry break which allows violating N3.
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by Gaston » 26/03/12, 16:00

RealWheel wrote:I have just defined the concept of a propulsion engine with rotating masses which makes it possible to create a constant unidirectional force. Again, it is possible to amplify the input energy by a factor of 800. The motor has a symmetry break which allows violating N3.
You've said it many times in different forms.

We are still waiting to know the principle.
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by dedeleco » 26/03/12, 16:13

He showed it on his site with an airplane:
It shakes masses in all directions, to the bottom of the body and it is sent into the air !!!!!!!!!

Monumental error of incomprehension of physics, which if it were true, would have been used for a very long time !!

His tuning fork on electronic scale is a measurement error, following the same idea !!
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by RealWheel » 26/03/12, 16:32

dedeleco wrote:He showed it on his site with an airplane:
It shakes masses in all directions, to the bottom of the body and it is sent into the air !!!!!!!!!

Monumental error of incomprehension of physics, which if it were true, would have been used for a very long time !!

His tuning fork on electronic scale is a measurement error, following the same idea !!


Several tests have been carried out with tuning forks of different configurations, with electronic or flail balances of high precision. None of these recent trials have proven successful. This does not mean that there is no real force. The only positive test was carried out in the 80s by an English engineer working at Rolls Royce with an electronic balance of very high precision.

With regard to the propulsion engine, I maintain my assertions. A prototype will be built in the coming months.
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by dedeleco » 26/03/12, 17:57

A prototype will be built in the coming months.

Guaranteed failure, it will never fly, incredible.

On a balance it is easy to make a mistake, even a balance beam, given the hysteresis of friction, which makes it possible to straighten the vibrations of your system and to obtain a non-zero force, which is very misleading, psychologically, because this force doesn’t will never exist in the air without friction on a support, even a very weak one, in the vacuum of space space !!!
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by RealWheel » 26/03/12, 18:14

dedeleco wrote:
A prototype will be built in the coming months.

Guaranteed failure, it will never fly, incredible.

On a balance it is easy to make a mistake, even a balance beam, given the hysteresis of friction, which makes it possible to straighten the vibrations of your system and to obtain a non-zero force, which is very misleading, psychologically, because this force doesn’t will never exist in the air without friction on a support, even a very weak one, in the vacuum of space space !!!


Completely agree with the measurements made on the tuning fork. One can however imagine that such a system equipped with two articulated branches with spring and shock absorber + a system of electromagnets to maintain the vibration should be able to provide a significant propulsive force (forward see back if we believe rather to the centripetal force). I don't have the courage to build such a device! The idea was to confirm this idea by buying a few tuning forks at 5 € each.
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by dedeleco » 26/03/12, 18:20

This exists by cyclic vibrations to move powders or objects on non-moving and only vibrating belts !!
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by RealWheel » 02/07/12, 19:34

Like it or not, producing biodiesel can only really be profitable if we are able to find a way to consume little energy to break the carbon chains of green waste.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APlczT3YJ2I

So somewhere, the efficiency of a closed loop is necessarily surunitary: http://www.energythic.com/view.php?node=272

By the way, of Chambrin's water engine, the true story is here: http://www.energythic.com/view.php?node=273

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by moinsdewatt » 02/07/12, 20:29

RealWheel wrote:So somewhere, the efficiency of a closed loop is necessarily surunitary: http://www.energythic.com/view.php?node=272

By the way, of Chambrin's water engine, the true story is here: http://www.energythic.com/view.php?node=273


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