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Re: Totalitarian architecture, they will destroy Mecca!




by Ahmed » 26/06/17, 22:38

That a superficial and emotional analysis does not please everyone, moreover, is an insignificant detail.

You write:
Absolutely, and it is all the more vicious when one displays the deepest contempt towards the civilization that produces these equipments that one uses.

The vice is certainly not there, because it is only the expression of mimetic rivalry which supposes this apparent contradiction: we want what the other has (and for this reason only), but cannot fully access it , we try to denigrate it. In this denigration, we must see on the contrary an underlying celebration.
As long as you specifically target innocent people ...

Of your own culture or not is not an ethical criterion, the means differ due to the respective ideological positions: in its time the West has often sat down on moral considerations, even if it means bringing them out when necessary made more felt. Anyway, the West needs an enemy and the fact that it subsidizes it and the weapon is not trivial ... (there is no more USSR).

Culture has a good game in there, what matters is the economy (the role of culture is therefore indirect), but by definition the "success" of one supposes the elimination of the other. . China is beginning to bear the brunt of it: copying a model that no longer worked in the West, it initially succeeded magnificently, due to cheap labor and zero environmental constraints (not taken into account negative externalities), but this is a success Pyrrhus, because the same causes have the same effects, with only the delay due to these factors mentioned. Today, China is mired in an export-oriented economy, totally linked to stagnating foreign markets and incapable of turning to its own domestic market, despite the pious wishes and incantations of the leaders.
A fortiori, no place remains for Muslim countries and the revival of religious exaltation, far from being a cause, is a consequence.
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by Janic » 27/06/17, 08:27

Ahmed hello
a small correction to make, if it suits you
A fortiori, no place remains for Muslim countries and the revival of religious exaltation, far from being a cause, is a consequence
. For Arab countries, not Muslims, even if the confusion between the two settles some. Not all Arabs are Muslims and not all Muslims are Arabs.
For the rest I agree, once again, with you
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by Ahmed » 27/06/17, 14:08

This correction is welcome, I had taken the formula ofexnihiloest by carelessness! : Oops:
We can also extend "the lack of space" to African countries in general, regardless of religious considerations ...
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by Janic » 27/06/17, 18:25

now "I believe what you say" : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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by sen-no-sen » 27/06/17, 23:34

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sen-no-sen wrote:Indeed, since this is the technologism who generated Daesh...

Well let's see ... gugus coming out of the Middle Ages observe a world that goes beyond them, and to mark their cultural difference they denigrate and oppose it by the most vile means. And it would be this world which "generated Daesh" ?! : roll:
The same thing happened in China or Korea, and at home in the time of the Roman Empire. That's not why these people started to murder innocent people, including people from their own culture. On the contrary, they have benefited from the windfall, in peace and prosperity.


Daesh is a direct consequence of the interference of the American-Western bloc in the Middle East, if you do not agree bring me reverse proofs ...
The Islamic revolution having allowed the coming to power of Ayatollah Khomeini was in time a consequence of this interference, too.
As rightly notes Ahmed, the "barbarians" are relatively well endowed in terms of technology and many of them were educated in our schools.
The thesis of "good guys and bad guys" does not hold up, any more than that of the clash of civilizations.

On the other hand, terrorism is what makes it possible to sell more and more efficient means of electronic surveillance and to develop the ever greater hold of technology on individuals.
So yes, it is indeed the technology that spawned Daesh, because any society needs a real or supposed enemy, it is the fantomas effect .
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by Ahmed » 28/06/17, 13:28

any society needs a real or supposed enemy ...

This is all the more true as its state of internal decomposition is advanced. Social ties that no longer have the capacity for a common project and felt as such, are then reconstituted salary. this enemy ...
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by sen-no-sen » 28/06/17, 21:16

In keep an eye on and punish Michel Foucault develops the thesis according to which the delinquent plays a role for society, in particular by allowing an increasingly important control over the populations.
It's pretty clear that we can hold a fortiori the same reasoning with the super criminals that are the terrorists.
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by Ahmed » 28/06/17, 22:28

Control which must be understood both as an increase in direct coercive powers (state of emergency) and indirect psychic domination (fear of populations seeking protection from the prince).
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by moinsdewatt » 29/06/17, 20:17

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The ruins of the "hunchback" minaret of the al-Nuri mosque, which was destroyed on June 21.

http://www.france24.com/fr/20170629-ira ... i-baghdadi
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by sen-no-sen » 03/07/17, 20:46

Directly or indirectly they really want to destroy Mecca!

A major attack against the foiled Mecca mosque
Published on 25 / 06 / 2017 at 07: 15


Saudi Arabia announced that it had foiled a large-scale attack against the Great Mosque in Mecca, the first holy place of Islam. Five suspected terrorists were arrested.

The toll could have been very heavy. Mecca, the first holy place of Islam where tens of thousands of the faithful had gathered for the last Friday of Ramadan, was targeted by an attempted attack, which was ultimately defeated in extremis according to the authorities. In the nets of the security forces: five men, probably a member of a "terrorist group" based in two districts of Mecca and in Jeddah, the economic capital of the country. A sixth person, involved in the operation, blew himself up after being chased and surrounded in a building near the Great Mosque. Six pilgrims and five police officers were injured in the partial collapse of the building caused by the explosion.


http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2017/06/25/2600652-attentat-envergure-contre-mosquee-mecque-dejoue.html

Information insufficiently relayed by the media ... but damn it! How is it explained that Muslims attack other Muslims, when we are sold the shock of Christianity / Western civilizations vs Islam? : Idea:
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