Israel Lebanon conflict

[freddau]

And no, they also bombed by planes.

And now the UN, unable to stop a "democracy", is asking Iran to stop enriching Uranium.

The president will laugh, it is so distressing.
Iran’s innocent people can even see their fate live if they don’t have weapons to steal Western planes.

Blair and Merckel have just asked to stop the fire ....... if possible.

[gegyx]

Christophe, when they fired on UNIFIL, and convoys of refugees, and on an ambulance, it was before this Monday ...
A Lebanese paramedic said on video and this morning on the radio that it was the first time that the "Red Cross emblem" had been attacked. He showed an ambulance (?), Dilapidated and burnt out, and said that the bomb had dropped right on the transported wounded.

When you attack a vehicle on a road, it is not by chance!
On UNIFIL, it was voluntary. It is not the first time in its history.
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What do you think of my news on Iraq? There was no reaction…
It put me on the ass!

https://www.econologie.com/forums/il-faut-sa ... t1484.html

[Other]

Hello,

Blair and Merckel have just asked to stop the fire ....... if possible.

In real life this is not how it works!

this is the british method each time we go on strike he asks the strikers to stop the strike as a precondition for negotiating, well no! negotiate first, reach a settlement and you will not have a strike ...
Or sign an agreement and the strike will end,
They make the gerre in a disproportionate way in means, it asks to stop the fire desaramement (not the planes nor the tanks (besides I wonder which among the great military powers, has as many tanks of assault weapon desuede just to wage war against civilians)
In reality the requests are addressed to those who are weakly armed.
We are beginning to see that it was a planned war, a lightning war which has slipped away, that the United Nations and the multinational force which is led by the great power, have been systematically blocked.
It seems that the situation escapes them, or it was a planned plan, to embark Syria and Iran in an enlarged conflict ...
Goerges dreams of going to Iran before finishing his second term
It is to believe, that there is only one person who directs on the world platform, well on the small Tony Yessemane who unconditionally supports the descisions of his uncle Sam ..
This is where we highlight the weakness and inaction of the great Europe, which should impose itself, not be in tow of the great power, such a weakness will cost dear to the politicians in place.
Little position of China and Putin on this conflict, it is true this problem must be resolved by two Anglo Saxons.

It is only the opinion and reaction of the great masses that stop wars.

Andre

[Targol]

Mouaif, it's amazing as we forget the story.
How has a whole people been able to pass in 50 years from the stage of victim to that of executioner?

I know, the comparison is daring, but the methods of the Israeli government today are very similar to those of the Nazi regime of 1940:
- getho where civilians deemed "inferior" and "terrorists" are massacred with impunity
- Attack without notice of sovereign countries without consideration for civilians.
- Use of phony pretexts to justify the most disproportionate reprisals ...

Like the famous "war against terrorism" of W, this "war against the hezbolah" of Israel will have exactly the opposite effect from that expected ..... unless the official reason for these 2 wars is only a mirror to the allots charged with masking the real motivation of these 2 wars: the USA artificially maintained its economic growth by manufacturing and buying more and more weapons (and by selling them to Israel). How to justify these purchases?

[freddau]

Blair and Merckel have just asked to stop the fire ....... if possible.

In fact I wanted to say that the only position that I approve of is France alone, which demands an immediate cease-fire.

And Blair and Merckel ask "if it's possible" .....
Europe is again in 2, roughly speaking.

[gegyx]

When it's not one, it's the other to piss and stop the machine ...

Not just France. Many countries in the world have condemned the bombing of Cana and have called for a halt to the bombing of Lebanon.

Already minimum, 828 dead and more than 3.200 injured
http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/etranger ... S7042.html

It's worth its weight in peanuts:
"Israel is not obliged to stand at attention and cease operations if the United Nations decides on a cease-fire."
"We will continue to act and will only accept a cease-fire on our terms," ​​said the minister.
If it is not a slap in the UN, who has no problem asking for sanctions against Iran, because it does not give up its atomic research…

Interesting anecdote:
Three Moroccan lawyers have filed a complaint against the Israeli Minister of Defense for "war crimes".
http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/etranger ... S7041.html
Complaints also in France, in Belgium
http://www.lorient-lejour.com.lb/page.a ... &id=318954

[Targol]

At the rate where it left, they will soon smoke us another village: it will be a Cana bis

... sorry

[gegyx]

The Israeli air force has carried out some 7.000 sorties so far.
Nearly 7000 Israeli soldiers engaged in Lebanon (headquarters)

Some 230 rockets landed on Israel today Wednesday.

http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/etranger ... .html?1846
Modern army, top equipped, against Hezbollah guerrillas.
During these real tests, with mixed success, military experts question and imagine what should be improved, in the design of armies to boost the future arms trade ...
This is where the reality is true.
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A scoop ?
Lebanon has 3,6 million inhabitants.
Israel has 6 million inhabitants.
Since July 12, the date of the abduction of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah, Israeli bombardments of Lebanon have left at least 835 killed and more than 3.210 injured, according to a new report provided by the Lebanese Government's Relief Commission.
800 displaced.

-> At this rate, with a simple extrapolation, the war in Lebanon will be over in 300 years, for lack of Lebanese population.

Another stupid thought:
Lebanon: cost of destruction estimated at 2,5 billion dollars
-> A trifle! Only a third of Eurotunnel's debts… In the end, everything is relative ...

[Targol]

We have reached a point where western nations (including Israel) are trying to counter tomorrow's threats with yesterday's weapons and strategies.

Let me explain: Conventional armaments and strategies (which represents almost 100% of the defense budget of the states) are adapted to the conflicts as we saw them in the 20th century. State-to-state conflicts with pitched battles, front lines, uniformed armies. For this type of conflict, an aircraft carrier, a strategic bomber or an anti-missile system are decisive assets.

However, especially since the Algerian war and especially Vietnam, the type of conflict with which the Western nations are confronted has completely changed form. What small nation ("rogue state" or other "axis of evil") would be stupid enough to go head-on with conventional forces against a much more powerful enemy?

And yes, gentlemen manufacturers of weapons, what can anti-missile shields do against a civilian aircraft hijacked from an airport in the national territory? What is the use of an aircraft carrier against small guerrilla groups with small arms which appear, attack and disappear in the wild? How do you use a nice stealth bomber at $ 3 billion against a desperate man who is full of explosives and will be fired in a crowd?

Faced with their overwhelming need to sell their crap, the merchants of death (France: 4th in the world for arms sellers - not enough to do Cocorico ) have just forgotten a detail, to change their dirty things at the same time as the needs.

Kind of like an IT vendor trying to sell punch cards today. The only nuance is that the weapons are bought by the soldiers .... From that to say that they are too stupid to realize that they have been refueling useless stuff ....

In the meantime, as usual, civilians are toast. In Lebanon, they really needed that. It had been a long time since they had been victims of barbarism and carnage.

And to think that a few years ago, Lebanon was the pearl of the Middle East. Now, where palaces, seaside resorts and casinos stood, there are ruins, corpses and co ... ards with weapons and certainties ...

[freddau]

Yes, not only there.

A regular army faced with guerrilla or "resistance" supported by the people, it is a bit cho to stop.

My memories even go back to Chouan, Napoleon's Spanish war, resistance to WWII, etc.