Reform of labor law: the left-impoverishes workers?

[Gaston]

but what does the government want to do? In a few lines of the most important things please?

Several measures in bulk ...

The most important (in any case those which seem to point the most against opponents of the project):

• Limit on unfair dismissal indemnities (even if the employer is at fault, it can never cost him more than the ceiling which depends on seniority)
• The possibility of making an economic layoff plan without having to justify real difficulties (in particular for group subsidiaries)
• Make company agreements preponderant over the law on certain points (Example: by law overtime must be paid 25% more expensive, but a company agreement may authorize them to pay only 10% more )
• If there is no agreement with the trade unions, the possibility of having a company referendum to validate a text

And many other "small" changes which all go in the direction of more precariousness for the employee and less risk for the employer

[Christophe]

The thank you box

Ah yes I see: it is true "left" policy what !!
Sarkozy would not have done "better" !!

And when is the abolition of the unions ???

[chatelot16]

all these legislative subtleties are details!

does current law protect workers? no because if the company no longer has the means to make them workers it becomes unemployed!

hell is paved with good intention! the laws that seem to protect workers if we look at the primary aspect condemn them to unemployment if we see the total result

the only real protection for workers is full employment, which allows a worker who is not happy with his boss to send him out for a walk and find another employer!

the laws and regulations whose purpose was to protect workers has the opposite effect: it creates the shortage of work and gives employers a position of strength ... France is customary for this inversion, which is also done for housing : a multitude of laws supposed to protect the tenants destroy the financial return of the construction of housing to rent therefore cause the shortage and increases the rent: the result is opposite: shortage and rent too expensive

I will repeat the same thing again: the state has killed investor confidence with all its stupid laws ... it can change anything it wants confidence will be very slow to return ... the only way to get out quickly unemployment is that the state builds new big business itself and as quickly as possible: this is the real emergency to avoid the revolution!

if the state started to build it would give confidence and private entrepreneurs would follow!

[raymon]

@christophe (not found how to make citations)
What exactly are we talking about for the petition? I heard that a reform was underway ... but what does the government want to do? In a few lines of the most important things please?
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The petition website:
https://www.change.org/p/loi-travail-no ... ilnonmerci
The likely postponement of the law:
https://www.change.org/p/loi-travail-no ... u/15655175
Here we are at 884 signatures. You said that a petition is useless but in this case it seems that it works. It just depends on the scale of the mobilization.
Basically a summary on the petiion website:
Among the elements proposed in the current project

☞ In the event of illegal dismissal, the labor compensation is capped at 15 months' salary.

☞ The 11 hours of compulsory rest per 24-hour period may be divided.

☞ A company can, by agreement, lower wages and change working hours

☞ On-call times can be deducted from rest times
☞ The "day pass" system, which allows work hours not to be counted, is extended

☞ Minor apprentices will be able to work 10 hours a day and 40 hours a week

☞ The 24-hour weekly floor for a part-time contract is no longer the rule in law (confirmation of an earlier law).

☞ A company agreement is enough for overtime to be increased 5 times less.

☞ A measure may be imposed by referendum against the opinion of 70% of the unions.

☞ A company can make a social plan without having economic difficulties.

☞ After a company agreement, an employee who refuses a change in their employment contract can be dismissed.

☞ By simple agreement, you can go from 10h to 12h maximum work per day.

[Christophe]

@christophe (not found how to make citations)

Last icon to the right of each message with the 2 umlauts.

Ok thank you for the additional information ... not really all left ... do they really believe that this will boost employment? Did the 35h work? The only ones who really benefited were the civil servants ... right?

The problem of employment in France and new hires is more a question of social security and employers flexibility of work (because this is essentially what is concerned by this reform ...)

[Christophe]

the only real protection for workers is full employment, which allows a worker who is not happy with his boss to send him out for a walk and find another employer!

Yes and full employment (except a new destructive war in Europe or a huge natural disaster ...) will never happen again because it is society as a whole that wants this: it is called technological progress!

Politicians are too cowardly to dare to admit this (but they know it very well ... they are only pretending to be idiots ... well maybe not all ...)

[Christophe]

if the state started to build it would give confidence and private entrepreneurs would follow!

Er what?

Because the State is building: Mistrals, EPRs, an Aircraft Carrier (at the twisted bridge) ...

[chatelot16]

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Er what?

Because the State is building: Mistrals, EPRs, an Aircraft Carrier (at the twisted bridge) ...

build housing to avoid shortages and lower the price of rent ... and reduce wages by reducing this huge expense in housing

and to build housing you would also have to build the equipment you need! truck, excavator, crane ... because it is stupid to buy foreign bazaar to build in France

and build sawmills to make good use of the wood that grows in France

and build machine tool, lathe and milling machine, as we knew how to do some ten years ago: today the factories buy Chinese machine tools which are real pigs ... when there are still industries that work they have to buy foreign machines because there is no other

build agricultural equipment: good tractors! we are overrun with overpriced and not solid pigmeat ... the cima factory which manufactured the international tractor in france was bought by the chinese YTO which reutilizes the mac cormick brand to sell chinoiserie very partially made in france

we would not stop listing the vital industries that France has left to fall into disrepair

to rebuild everything quickly we cannot count on liberalism which will do nothing as long as it is not profitable: the state must take authoritarian decisions and then do what is necessary for it to work including changing the economic and fiscal rules so that it becomes profitable

if there is no energetic decision we will continue to sink into decay

[Gaston]

And finally, chatelot16, you are rather favorable to this bill or not (or you do not care ...)

[raymon]

How is it that it is always under a left government that the rights of employees are reduced ?????

in final I was the best in computer science now it makes me sweat not understand quote.
We must stop saying that the PS is a left government. They stole the word socialist.