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by Gregconstruct » 15/12/08, 18:07

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by C moa » 15/12/08, 18:12

Christophe wrote:I still prefer a green dictatorship ... than a red dictatorship ... at least there are not only losers ...
For me, TOUS the extremes are dangerous and the only winners in these stories are those at the top of the system.

Whether it be fascism or communism (the two most experienced extremes to date) we can see that they have produced the same overall effects with different ideologies:
- Millions of unhappy people;
- The general suppression of freedoms;
- Organized surveillance of the population;
- Wars (internal and external);
- Concentration / extermination and forced labor camps;
- ....

On a certain number of points, liberalism in its most extreme form (USA, England, management economic from China ...) produces similar effects.

Let's not talk about religious extremism (crusades, inquisition, Islamist terrorism, certain Jewish colonies ...), it is often worse.

I do not think that a green dictatorship would do better, it would remain directed by men necessarily obtuse because extremists. I had already mentioned it, take the time to read the book by Jean-Christophe RUFIN - The perfume of Adam, it lets glimpse what could be (what is already in the United States) an ecological extremism with its face necessarily the most obscure, terrorism.

For the attention of Christine,
Considering what I just said, you will have understood that I do not have my CGT card but the other morning I heard Berbard Thibaud denounce the car manufacturers by saying "on the one hand [the manufacturers] say that 'they have to close factories because they do not sell enough and on the other hand their delivery times are getting longer. In reality, they want to keep their margins ... ".

How can these kinds of situations not give rise to extremism? So forum, the criticism fuse very regularly concerning the automobile manufacturers, are they all unfounded ??

What is interesting in a democratic country is that "extremisms" are used to denounce the "extreme" situations in the camp opposite.
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by C moa » 15/12/08, 18:14

Gregconstruct wrote:Do not mix all friends ... : Mrgreen:

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She is very good +1 (deserves a nomination for two-ball jokes) : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 15/12/08, 18:34

Economics wrote:this is because the guy thinks he can gradually abandon nuclear power in favor of geothermal energy.

My naive question: is it possible? What are the technological barriers (if any)?


Mwarf one more huckster ... nuclear will not be replaced by ONE but DES alternative energy, deep geothermal energy can be part of it but it is not so easy as it seems.

The problem is the exploitable deposit, that is to say find geologically favorable places, that is to say hot layers not too deep and that one can exploit easily that is to say that one can drill at reasonable cost (at least 1 go well and 1 return well)

There is quite a link and doc in the subject on soultz if I remember well which card:
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http://www.soultz.net/fr/technologie/projets.php

I had the chance to visit the Soultz demonstrator site in 2003 and I can tell you that it is not accessible to anyone, only oil and gas companies have the technology and know-how to build this kind of project. ... and at what price?

At the time they had just finished drilling I believe.
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by Gregconstruct » 15/12/08, 18:39

C moa wrote:
Gregconstruct wrote:Do not mix all friends ... : Mrgreen:

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She is very good +1 (deserves a nomination for two-ball jokes) : Mrgreen:


Thank you C moa : Mrgreen:

I leave you the pleasure of pouring it into the list of jokes with two balls if the heart tells you ... 8)
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by Christine » 15/12/08, 19:43

C moa wrote:For the attention of Christine,
Considering what I just said, you will have understood that I do not have my CGT card but the other morning I heard Berbard Thibaud denounce the car manufacturers by saying "on the one hand [the manufacturers] say that 'they have to close factories because they do not sell enough and on the other hand their delivery times are getting longer. In reality, they want to keep their margins ... ".


... and I quite agree with him. I'm not "against" or "for" the Cgt - it's extraordinary how quickly we are cataloged! I believe that it is essential for the (relative) balance of our society. I had the chance to meet extraordinarily motivated and efficient people at the cgt, who were able to fight to restore confidence in themselves and in our society to deceived workers, victims of flagrant injustices but which everyone did not care about.
So yes, maybe their ideology is anachronistic, surely there are dirty idiots who take the opportunity to go and bellow in loudspeakers and keep their skills, even if it is to the detriment of other workers. But there is field work, much more discreet but terribly important for justice in our society and infinitely precious for each victim who feels recognized and supported.

And that is priceless.

So do not come to break my neck ... feet to label me "for" or "against" such or such movement because I allow myself to criticize or praise what I consider criticizable or commendable apart from any belonging *.


Notable exceptions: the extreme right, racism and discrimination in general. I am resolutely "against".
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by Gregconstruct » 15/12/08, 19:52

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by Gregconstruct » 15/12/08, 20:22

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